From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 15 18:27:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F44516B339 for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 18:27:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mta11.adelphia.net (mta11.adelphia.net [68.168.78.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F9C443D58 for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 18:27:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([70.39.69.56]) by mta11.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with SMTP id <20060515182719.GUWL9009.mta11.adelphia.net@barbish> for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 14:27:19 -0400 From: "fbsd" To: Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 14:27:13 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <002f01c6782d$6e528100$0a0aa8c0@endor.swagman.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Has the port collection become to large to handle. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 18:28:05 -0000 The best indicator that the ports collection has become to large is that it took me 2 hours to download the complete port-all collection using A DSL internet connection. To compile the ports I use took another 11 hours. This is the reason I went to using packages in the first place. Downloading the complete port collection when I had a dial up connection would go maybe 35 min and them get suspended by the cvs site. I would rerun the job over and over again sometimes taking a week or better to finally get it completed. This makes the download of the complete port collect almost impossible for dial up users. On 6.0 I installed all the ports I use by the package method in less than 10 min. In 6.1 release changes were made that no longer allow packages to work with ports as dependents. Packages have to have the ability to give the installer the ability to select the dependents versions for such primary applications as php3/4/5 mysql3/4/5. Also the ports and packages have to return to being able to work together like in FreeBSD versions older than 6.1. Or more versions of certain ports that interface with other primary application have to be carried in the collection. The design of the working collection needs to be made more user friendly for everybody including the dial up users. Some very good ideas have been put forth and should get serious attention by the FreeBSD foundation management.