From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 20 05:44:25 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DB64113F0E8 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 05:44:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) Received: from mail.covisp.net (mail.covisp.net [65.121.55.42]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EAA4F7AEC2 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 05:44:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) From: "@lbutlr" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Long Term support versions? Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 22:44:22 -0700 References: <20181113111556.f5870a43fbb1fe38db2a9df2@sohara.org> <20181113130504.ce9045901a6c838aee60bc19@sohara.org> <7B97FE27-E2AD-431F-A0A3-01FFF26BC121@kreme.com> <20181113135750.ea704ac41e688fd98cc8fa0c@sohara.org> <49621BE5-435A-4078-85CA-478DC81854A1@kreme.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <255EA5AD-4C9D-498F-AA06-57C6ECB551BD@kreme.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.102.3) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: EAA4F7AEC2 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.74 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.19)[-0.186,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MISSING_MIME_VERSION(2.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[kreme.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-0.07)[asn: 209(-0.27), country: US(-0.09)]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mail.covisp.net]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.01)[0.011,0]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.40)[0.403,0]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:209, ipnet:65.112.0.0/12, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[42.55.121.65.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 05:44:25 -0000 On 19 Nov 2018, at 20:12, Dale Scott wrote: > On the other hand, it might be more pragmatic to take a CI approach = and learn how to live with the release process. Is that possible? I can both live with it (as I have been doing for years) and still = complain! :) It seems obvious to me that going from FINAL to FINAL versions should be = possible, if not encouraged, and that supporting the FINAL version for = maybe a year -- or if we're really lucky two -- isn't really helping = anyone. The counter to not having the resources to maintain version support = longer is to slow version releases, not to force a faster upgrade = treadmill on everyone. --=20 Minds are like parachutes, they only work when they are open.