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From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" <jmb@kryten.Atinc.COM>
Subject: Re: ports startup scripts
To: Peter da Silva <peter@taronga.com>
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On Sun, 24 Sep 1995, Peter da Silva wrote:
> 
> After you get that warning from /etc/daily and fix the installation problem
> you'll understand the process.
> 
> If you use a script you'll never know if there's an installation problem until
> you find yourself rebuilding the script from your memory after the system
> doesn't come up one day.

	no backups ;(

> >	if you are using a non-offical port, you are NOT a newbie.
> 
> Say *what*?
> 
> >	that both use a master file.  one exists as a file, the other 
> >exists as an artifact of ascii sort order (not obvious to our poor 
> >newbie, especially when we have to explain that 10 comes before 2).
> 
> 02 comes before 10

	as does 002.  still not obvious  to a newbie

> >	one directory for all start and stop scripts
> 
> Not ideal, but acceptable.
> 
> >	explicit invocation order, a list
> 
> Then why bother having a directory at all? You might as well just keep on
> editing /etc/rc.local...
> 
> >	dont have to flip directories to see how level 0 differs from 
> >level 1--just check the list
> 
> ls /etc/rc*.d is a list.
> 
> >	no ascii sort order surprises ( 0 1 2 243 43)
> 
> I've been using the System V scheme for ten years and I've never seen a
> single "ascii sort order" surprise, even from Oracle (and they're *really*
> sloppy about this stuff, or used to be).

	standard newbie stuff.  create 1, 2, 3, 4 ... 10

	hey why did 10 run before 2.   now i KNOW that 2 < 10.  2 ran 
before 3, so i am right.  better file a bug report.

> >	no having to chase links
> 
> No having to chase links.
> 
> >	increased clarity (i hope)
> 
> I find a script less clear than a directory listing.
> 
> I've done it both ways. This one really does work better... well enough to
> have replaced /etc/rc on Xenix and s:user-startup on my Amiga.


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