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([2607:fb90:82a9:a99e:b851:5f32:3f1d:bd9]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id k186sm48246940pge.13.2019.01.05.10.58.30 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 05 Jan 2019 10:58:30 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: Strategic Thinking (was: Re: Speculative: Rust for base system components) From: Enji Cooper X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (16C104) In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2019 10:58:29 -0800 Cc: Cy Schubert , Poul-Henning Kamp , Hackers freeBSD , Igor Mozolevsky Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1CEA5490-C284-4178-9B00-6C96BAC512E0@gmail.com> References: <201901042142.x04LgKkQ045885@slippy.cwsent.com> To: Wojciech Puchar X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: CB4E78E418 X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=pPaBdrTf; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of yaneurabeya@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::432 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=yaneurabeya@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.80 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCPT_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.93)[-0.928,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2.3.4.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(-2.36)[ip: (-7.88), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.19), asn: 15169(-1.67), country: US(-0.08)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2019 18:58:34 -0000 On Jan 5, 2019, at 07:16, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >>> . >>>=20 >>> FreeBSD should aim for that room, rather than become "Linux-sans-GPL" >>=20 >> We should try to fit into the datacentre. >>=20 > To whose gain? See my previous reply: Dell (Isilon, etc), Juniper, Panasas (sp?), Sandvine,= WhatsApp (Facebook), etc. Example: Facebook has toyed around with converting their entire WhatsApp fle= et away from FreeBSD in the datacenter to FB Linux. Let=E2=80=99s give them l= ess ammo to do so. They were a major financial contributor to the FreeBSD pr= oject back a couple years ago, so like it or not, having FreeBSD be a compel= ling project is helping finance your =E2=80=9Chobby OS=E2=80=9D. Cheers, -Enji=