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Date:      Tue, 21 Feb 2017 15:56:17 +0000
From:      Vsevolod Stakhov <vsevolod@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Mathieu Arnold <mat@FreeBSD.org>, "Mikhail T." <mi+thun@aldan.algebra.com>, Jan Beich <jbeich@freebsd.org>, ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Misuse of PORTREVISION (Re: svn commit: r434379 - head/multimedia/x265)
Message-ID:  <2dd922e8-af48-6245-752a-061af7a91a5a@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <a9be8749-360f-15fb-aa75-93a378371c51@FreeBSD.org>
References:  <20170218210541.82AA915F6@freefall.freebsd.org> <f23cecfc-d669-e62b-1916-1e16e66fb3eb@aldan.algebra.com> <a9be8749-360f-15fb-aa75-93a378371c51@FreeBSD.org>

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From: Vsevolod Stakhov <vsevolod@FreeBSD.org>
To: Mathieu Arnold <mat@FreeBSD.org>, "Mikhail T."
 <mi+thun@aldan.algebra.com>, Jan Beich <jbeich@freebsd.org>,
 ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org,
 svn-ports-head@freebsd.org
Message-ID: <2dd922e8-af48-6245-752a-061af7a91a5a@FreeBSD.org>
Subject: Re: Misuse of PORTREVISION (Re: svn commit: r434379 -
 head/multimedia/x265)
References: <20170218210541.82AA915F6@freefall.freebsd.org>
 <f23cecfc-d669-e62b-1916-1e16e66fb3eb@aldan.algebra.com>
 <a9be8749-360f-15fb-aa75-93a378371c51@FreeBSD.org>
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On 21/02/2017 15:52, Mathieu Arnold wrote:
> Le 18/02/2017 =C3=A0 22:56, Mikhail T. a =C3=A9crit :
>> On 18.02.2017 16:05, Jan Beich wrote:
>>> Can you bump PORTREVISION in consumers?
>> Just did. But I believe, our usage of PORTREVISION is wrong-headed.
>=20
> I completely agree. The problem is that portupgrade/portmaster do not
> handle shlib bumps and do not force rebuilding depending ports. If you
> want to fix those tools to behave in a better way, please do so.
>=20
> In the mean time, when some shlib version is bumped, all consumers must=

> have their PORTREVISION bumped.
>=20

As I've said many times, we should just kill these outdated tools and
use pkg (not make!) to resolve build depends. It is merely a political
decision not technical one. I don't want to push forward towards this
feature in pkg unless I'm sure that it will be really used. For now, we
have been discussing this problem for 3 or 4 years already. And there is
still no clear conclusion about it.

--=20
Vsevolod Stakhov


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