From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Wed Jul 19 01:26:54 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35028DA4B0B for ; Wed, 19 Jul 2017 01:26:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dewayne.geraghty@heuristicsystems.com.au) Received: from hermes.heuristicsystems.com.au (hermes.heuristicsystems.com.au [203.41.22.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "hermes.heuristicsystems.com.au", Issuer "Heuristic Systems Type 4 Host CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6BE6C65CBA for ; Wed, 19 Jul 2017 01:26:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dewayne.geraghty@heuristicsystems.com.au) Received: from [10.0.5.3] (ewsw01.hs [10.0.5.3]) (authenticated bits=0) by hermes.heuristicsystems.com.au (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id v6J1Pl0V022108 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NOT); Wed, 19 Jul 2017 11:25:48 +1000 (AEST) (envelope-from dewayne.geraghty@heuristicsystems.com.au) X-Authentication-Warning: b3.hs: Host ewsw01.hs [10.0.5.3] claimed to be [10.0.5.3] Subject: Re: mac_sofi: a proof of concept MAC module To: Martin Beran , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org References: From: Dewayne Geraghty Message-ID: <5f10fbd6-f8aa-0e47-0861-9bfebff0ca74@heuristicsystems.com.au> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 11:26:18 +1000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-AU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 01:26:54 -0000 Martin, Would it be possible to expand on how SOFI is better/different to MAC lomac? As it seems that the testing program is the differentiator? Aside: Also you may not be aware that system namespace extended attributes do not function within a jail, though this is the same as the rest of MAC. I'm told that SELinux uses "security" and others use "trusted" namespaces, perhaps for some future FreeBSD...? Regards, Dewayne.