From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Sun Jan 6 18:01:51 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D9AC1495C43 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2019 18:01:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mozolevsky@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oi1-f178.google.com (mail-oi1-f178.google.com [209.85.167.178]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BB60688262; Sun, 6 Jan 2019 18:01:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mozolevsky@gmail.com) Received: by mail-oi1-f178.google.com with SMTP id u18so34131275oie.10; Sun, 06 Jan 2019 10:01:50 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=eN6d8DRI93L3BYsRbRgT0BZMmm8sWYWYK1RPWqzpK88=; b=o7Pg//iSu8sQDceAJb1hdh7fZralnBPlklo34wefU/kBiccPgxYaiGqp+Q2muW+NUe +Q7bgipeTnLZxQhurdpD7ZZyzdxz9XMnKLPosBKavj5BIQs+5tHsb3dSIq5yDj42gcZ4 kMe9EOvEtMoi/jQPVD1II/nZtyAztoR2aQ7F9QUbDs/F2BNGQLCU4X1Y0UHX27qgbW/F KdlUfgH3LakVj+OFTkpRNRHEBqmEwmdaTyS25LS/IuSVyMoYFo/jPtXQi9FEMHHo2sf1 IMX8SZRwXfc9Bnrj8w6HjhuyAefqYstlJxNsemFSWlTSuUgka9nr+BAvSM4SLTNhGM1O USow== X-Gm-Message-State: AJcUukclgba6eM2hRjFWcnVcKtrfRkI+Rt93B2tkXrPMGKKGaR97YyoL q7oXY8q9KIVsiaaFrf7hkkNolPthE1PqTQtE86JmLA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AFSGD/VtOEJUI7sJjWQvmivr9L5twkNhX+RTzx2UKdJ7vJpB2plcl0ofMKz/U9y6g9vqVLP9iMUIspmkeznVRxyKYsk= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6808:282:: with SMTP id z2mr41509400oic.128.1546797704332; Sun, 06 Jan 2019 10:01:44 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7d7bc47d-04cf-2f9b-00a3-e3d9d92b3623@aceshardware.com> <72922F2C-9D27-47AA-BB1C-2DA8589CF008@rpi.edu> <92bd5362-d898-aa12-8f3d-9fbe23f38e0c@aceshardware.com> <26325c0b-4960-7739-72aa-c31c4e0638d3@aceshardware.com> In-Reply-To: From: Igor Mozolevsky Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2019 18:01:09 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Speculative: Rust for base system components To: Alan Somers Cc: Brian Neal , "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: BB60688262 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mozolevsky@gmail.com designates 209.85.167.178 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mozolevsky@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.98 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.994,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:209.85.128.0/17]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.992,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[hybrid-lab.co.uk]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.87)[-0.874,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[178.167.85.209.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(-1.10)[ipnet: 209.85.128.0/17(-3.77), asn: 15169(-1.67), country: US(-0.08)]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[igor@hybrid-lab.co.uk,mozolevsky@gmail.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:209.85.128.0/17, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[igor@hybrid-lab.co.uk,mozolevsky@gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2019 18:01:51 -0000 On Sun, 6 Jan 2019 at 17:54, Alan Somers wrote: > Igor, please stop commenting unless you have something constructive to add. Really, demonstrating the fact that it's exceptionally easy to write buggy code even in Rust is not adding something to the discussion where "safety" is one of the paramount reasons why Rust is discussed??? Quite frankly, I think exposing the ability to write buggy and poor code adds far more to the discussion than your jejune commentary on my comments! If Rust was *that* good, the compiler should be refusing to compile code that will conceal serious issues. Do you have something against my name or something? -- Igor M.