From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 9 16:38:53 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6833316A41F for ; Fri, 9 Dec 2005 16:38:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from riggs@riggiland.dyndns.org) Received: from riggiland.dyndns.org (ppp-62-245-160-169.mnet-online.de [62.245.160.169]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83A9443D49 for ; Fri, 9 Dec 2005 16:38:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from riggs@riggiland.dyndns.org) Received: from marvin.riggiland.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by riggiland.dyndns.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jB9GcjLo056421; Fri, 9 Dec 2005 17:38:46 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from riggs@marvin.riggiland.au) Received: (from riggs@localhost) by marvin.riggiland.au (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id jB9GcjwT056420; Fri, 9 Dec 2005 17:38:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from riggs) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 17:38:43 +0100 From: "Thomas E. Zander" To: David Malone Message-ID: <20051209163843.GS898@marvin.riggiland.au> References: <20051209093610.GR898@marvin.riggiland.au> <4399997D.7010304@samsco.org> <20051209154056.GA21926@freebie.xs4all.nl> <4399A612.1030103@samsco.org> <20051209160006.GA53492@walton.maths.tcd.ie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051209160006.GA53492@walton.maths.tcd.ie> Organization: Chaotic X-PGP-KeyID: 0xC85996CD X-PGP-URI: http://blackhole.pca.dfn.de:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xC85996CD X-PGP-Fingerprint: 4F59 75B4 4CE3 3B00 BC61 5400 8DD4 8929 C859 96CD X-Mailer: Marvin Mail (Build 1134145219) X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.0-STABLE Cc: Wilko Bulte , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Boot manager beep X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 16:38:53 -0000 On Fri, 09. Dec 2005, at 16:00 +0000, David Malone wrote according to [Re: Boot manager beep]: > On Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 08:43:14AM -0700, Scott Long wrote: > > > It is highly irritating for everyone else, though. > > Not quite everyone - if I'm working on a few machines I find it > useful to know when a particular machine has reached the boot stage, > so I can tell it to go into single user mode. It is particularly > useful on machines where the BIOS tages ages to do its stuff. Probably it isn't even a real problem on most boxes. Usually standard desktops and servers (maybe) have their pc speaker which is set to a reasonable volume at boot time. I never found this beep annoying in my servers. Just came across it when I had to reinstall my notebook because of a hard drive crash and 6.0 installed this beeping boot loader. So probably as Scott pointed out, it might be best to let the user choose a quiet loader as an option. Naturally, boot0 is a tiny program, it shouldn't be a problem to build a boot0nobeep as well and install one of them depending on settings, maybe even early during sysinstall ?! Riggs -- - "[...] I talked to the computer at great length and -- explained my view of the Universe to it" said Marvin. --- And what happened?" pressed Ford. ---- "It committed suicide." said Marvin.