From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 30 18:42:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0501816A423 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 18:42:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eksffa@freebsdbrasil.com.br) Received: from capeta.freebsdbrasil.com.br (vrrp.freebsdbrasil.com.br [200.210.70.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7658143D55 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 18:42:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from eksffa@freebsdbrasil.com.br) Received: (qmail 64766 invoked by uid 0); 30 Mar 2006 15:42:03 -0300 Received: from eksffa@freebsdbrasil.com.br by capeta.freebsdbrasil.com.br by uid 82 with qmail-scanner-1.22 (spamassassin: 2.64. Clear:RC:1(201.17.152.115):. Processed in 0.720996 secs); 30 Mar 2006 18:42:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.69.69.69?) (201.17.152.115) by capeta.freebsdbrasil.com.br with SMTP; 30 Mar 2006 15:42:02 -0300 Message-ID: <442C2675.9050703@freebsdbrasil.com.br> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 15:41:57 -0300 From: Patrick Tracanelli Organization: FreeBSD Brasil LTDA User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051013 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <200603300730.35065.davidxu@freebsd.org> <442BC198.5000209@wincmd.ru> <20060330083736.diiud3wv280k0cww@webmail.1command.com> <1143740137.89530.3.camel@funkalicious.home.dom> <70e8236f0603301015g193243a5ndbf700c5a360730a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <70e8236f0603301015g193243a5ndbf700c5a360730a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: away X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 18:42:17 -0000 Joao Barros wrote: > On 3/30/06, Adam Retter wrote: > >>Who attacked him, can we not give them a kicking ;-) > > > At most a kick on IRC since the person in question is also a valid > FreeBSD developer. > I read most of -current, -stable, -hackers, -cvsall as well as some > other FreeBSD lists and sometimes I read someone's comment and think: > "That was totally unnecessary..." > But people are all not the same and we have our good days and our bad days. > I guess David was on a bad day when Dag wrote what he wrote, on a bad > day himself. > I have been accompanying David and Dag's work and both are important > and needed and have their credit for, no doubt about it. > > David, Dag has done the more difficult part: recognizing and > apologizing. From there, forgiving is easy ;-) > > Can't we all just code along? :-D I completly do agree with every single statement Joao has made. It could have been kept on private mailing list. From what it looks like for people like me, when-possible contributor and every-day-user, It seems to be just a simple "work" discussion, like those ones which usually happen one day or one other in everywhere there is work getting done by more than one person, a cooperative working-style discussion on what is good and what can be done in different (hopefully better) way. Accepting and interpreting suggestions as well as suggesting on a non-rude manner is something that everyone one day fail, in their busy heavy days. No big deal, It is human nature. Anyway, everyone who follows cvs-all@ is very thankfull for what David has done everyday in the system, and probably will appreciate a lot more if Mr. Xu decide to keep doing the good work, improving what he has noted himself that should be improved and work together with others to improve things that more than one brain could probably get better results than only a single one. Hope you stay. Osho in one of his books usually say that apologizing is a difficult decision, apologizing honestly is even more difficult and rare. And do not accepting the honest apollogies is a severe decision and as such, comes with a lot of consequences. -- Patrick Tracanelli