From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 26 23:09:26 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96472106564A for ; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 23:09:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f182.google.com (mail-qy0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 566F78FC1A for ; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 23:09:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyg14 with SMTP id 14so2881282qyg.13 for ; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 16:09:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Z+ErzC8hUodPGWsUshUfTURqFI8rr1CTs9wnVK0vcgo=; b=rJDUrFS89Xt6xxsVyHa5/V974Sm9BTZET4MjbQMVyEb5gM1/N2Fd3SG7CVhd5K+DHW UKDpNX6gkvScdb6lFUeaO5vK5/zqurlZsS79NNrDSYuCptL3/rWGcHARExQijHttYLtO nrvjS7PGqVC1RLkaKGj8ESzFUSSxbKtzl9BwY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.111.33 with SMTP id if1mr1536900obb.29.1319670565506; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 16:09:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.42.167 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 16:09:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 19:09:25 -0400 Message-ID: From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk To: FreeBSD Current Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: FreeBSD 9.0 amd64 RC1 and KDE4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 23:09:26 -0000 The KDE4 in FreeBSD 9.0 RC1 amd64 is generating enormous amount of error messages during usage ( not visible on screen , but seen after Ctrl-Alt-F1 discontinuation of X ) . This is making it extremely slow which may be considered to be practically unusable . Actually parts are working generally but every step is waiting so much that such a usage is not practically applicable . The KDE4 in FreeBSD 9.0 RC1 i386 is working satisfactorily , but for memory requirements , it is not an alternative . There are important usability differences between both architectures with respect to KDE4 execution . One alternative is mentioned as PC-BSD , but installation of PC-BSD is NOT possible : In PC-BSD 8.2 amd64 Release and following snapshot(s) , within 18 ( eighteen ) hours , only a small percent ( less than % 10 ) could be installed . Now , in PC-BSD 9.0 RC1 amd64 , I am still waiting : In 4 ( four ) hours it could come to "Installing Meta Package : base-system" . Such an installation structure is really unusable . I will discontinue it because it seems that complete install will require many days with that speed . I am continuously installing many other distributions which mostly they are consuming time around thirty minutes ( except upgrade during installation , if it is selected ) . Thirty minutes may be considered an acceptable duration for installation , let's say , time less than one hour as endurable . It should not be forgotten that , the task is copy of approximately 4 Giga Bytes to hard disk from a DVD-Rom with an additional decompressing of files . Therefore , for the KDE4 users in the amd64 platform , there is a big problem . This was also the case for 8.2 amd64 Release . Thank you very much . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk