From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 4 10:19:40 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D84F7333DB7 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 2020 10:19:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pr0f3ss0r1492@yahoo.com) Received: from sonic301-31.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (sonic301-31.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [66.163.184.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49d1wr1NGCz4LrG for ; Thu, 4 Jun 2020 10:19:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pr0f3ss0r1492@yahoo.com) X-YMail-OSG: zl_7TFsVM1lq_6o7WQ385ZFmnHloxoF4.iL9gMe2hs5gbOPnmItsJmVLoIarZoJ pqx.CSM1OI3TT_0LDIueFK0_UXvJBV7bZqp_9KOgkJhI4Gu.nNxUoYoQh8PAkXZEBPe3PEgnmvKV hXprGpGo5TxcOH9FOHpLy99rrFbxNrWmslnnIdVolVMovp1MkgmSXwEhtCEMLoJoM4JhgZEuvvHD Niw6L4M1QUk8d0v8jSQ6y0Pva2r0eRwMB6hHFYYUEzEsalYBYyPy1NT89DX13MTOuzveSLjZhuY5 139LF3DkoPmK_g46JB1I2w5RaAZ0s4pMl7VF4Ym6IaxINSSkC2bzpgbzzW_2k7f4JjfAZ.9e7708 OsvyLfts75drSpWrRNQC8bYJwRXhvTOYrupeuaNq0_UPR_xGsAlED114BT4P0kNV3PLkr0XNNqUh MuCnfmEdchBgrh61ncDSWZIgmoMrmONUGf2kS5QtarI9u19LDkU5XNsZvym_FT_FO7RnI20yN5JH 1SWNGmUajtLfdKpM0oHNmUTYn8WfKUB.pSJW25YAWwOwUxmZmxFvM.45HbJ0Cr0EfCa_GJicRRWo lMdodXu5gfe0E0IHjnwg43ZhY.J95sem_AAqN.ejOr_z_gLdGfUALTNyBUbXUHlvNgvyko9PMXm7 dXXExNxnNSBsFQ8bfthdIwRAwKV2pRW3Hzxf9Gk38v.HijQiw.UkHdD0u6hWnbxWGX3AlF4yblGS YtUnkwr0de7XY.V0uL0zOD2Rsz6q.KnhUH6ZG8nH1H61MbL.js7H_mYhZSRhmZLPcne6KY.tCVis kAbE3e9lB9T7h2AcaLUQ4DI8e.3g5Iyn6wFmyWK42vVWXYVx1zEAV60fFw9YW7lgGjdHgFiQ.L93 .Udn3lFGTxb4NTd4VlirvjcAo_FDm0zJaI5CHRwgX406VxgLQAtC4aomCGDzLxN51qlvw1rLADe4 vtA7lLxcFH9fNNds4YtOeE6q_gxn7mihNK4mcUVP4L0PFUVLqItR6HMSw5Bcw01sBHE3AVQnQGNU jpzkDGFGjk3bT.OIRkZD6JjyNAbxM_Dm.KcMz2MHT9qdfkC1SP82N8GwMaES.AulGDDR3YLYaNDv H9_fGvMUt8kopy0Gu0E27vQSo7qK6Wzi8zq2wZuMu8JizwlqHDVEn_tw.FkCCeyaCKMn4s7PQnd3 SONV1zoR8wCUdoY6EW6CdcpmnyNTlnKxk3dKt9lK6t5nja4CMb13Uadbb1nMSfJu7w8gSU8t.I2u iraXdVt0wmbJeJqXte3llQt6MtanPC4j0XV7FajLeIp.fc9BFBQlfk2EdaeXE3rFXosjO2vBmU1D iQQHr6TZDEnGS0Z4Sz9vsvwQFDDL3ivO79rHm0aKMg7SaSCCxCDdTwsMJTP3NyLdMrJDULNk7Axw 1lHfA26E7O20EIikIzQBq Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic301.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Thu, 4 Jun 2020 10:19:38 +0000 Received: by smtp427.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (VZM Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 5318d3348b85eeb5dea5a1f102bb89d0; Thu, 04 Jun 2020 10:19:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pj1-f45.google.com with SMTP id nm22so954340pjb.4 for ; Thu, 04 Jun 2020 03:19:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532NXN0slb7Kel4tZlvQNv4tioYD9gB5oPVku6d1wJQkMZuZ7fTa +B+jIZx/Le9d9vh0qBWii7s+A/TGpNHjnxJCUYY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJya5NjsI1eYv3cFM2DG27GF+tYk9jjMGp1H5UEWm54vP5TQ1Ph+fL5XP31d+0teon3l+hWI1TLOMkIaSYjVnmI= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:4ecb:: with SMTP id v11mr5175346pjl.75.1591265972284; Thu, 04 Jun 2020 03:19:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20200604103920.20ee2d27@archlinux> In-Reply-To: <20200604103920.20ee2d27@archlinux> From: Ottavio Caruso Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2020 11:19:16 +0100 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mininal skills To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.16037 hermes_yahoo Apache-HttpAsyncClient/4.1.4 (Java/11.0.6) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49d1wr1NGCz4LrG X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.06 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.993]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.03)[-1.034]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[66.163.184.200:from]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.33)[-0.328]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com,pr0f3ss0r1492@yahoo.com]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[66.163.184.200:from]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36646, ipnet:66.163.184.0/21, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com,pr0f3ss0r1492@yahoo.com]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com:dkim] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2020 10:19:40 -0000 On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 at 09:39, Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions wrote: > > On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 09:04:45 +0100, Ottavio Caruso wrote: > >Install, uninstall, break, fix, reinstall, configure. > ^^^^^ :D > I don't know what this is. Never happened to me. > > For those who "decide" to "break", first becoming familiar with backup > strategies might be a good idea. You missed the "do it in a VM first". If you've never broken a system maybe it's because you haven't tried hard. By being able to use virtualisation, one also picks other skills. I've learnt a lot by using qemu, setting up virtual serial consoles, virtual interfaces, ssh forwarding, etc. Things you can not usually do on bare metal. -- Ottavio Caruso