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Date:      Wed, 9 Jan 2019 09:50:17 +0100
From:      Michel Bertrand <mpbertrand@gmail.com>
To:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: freebsd-stable Digest, Vol 805, Issue 2
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>    4. Re: FreeBSD 12 and Nocona (Marek Zarychta)
>    5. Re: x86intrin.h not found after 10.4->11.2 upgrade (Morgan Reed)
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> From: Ruben <mail@osfux.nl>
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> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2019 22:43:11 +0100
> Subject: Re: APU2, legacy firmware 4.0.22, FreeBSD 12.0 hangs in boot
> Hi,
>
>
> On 1/5/19 6:40 PM, Ruben wrote:
>
> >
> > Ill try updating an apu1 ( running 11.2 ) with its current (mainline)
> > firmware to 12.0 one of these days as well.
> >
> I updated my apu1d4 from 11.2 to 12.0 (freebsd-update), no
> strange/unexpected behaviour.
>
> The apu1d4 is running its "original" firmware I think (cant remember
> having updated it) :
>
> =3D=3D=3D
>
> Build date: Apr  5 2014
> System memory size: 4592 MB
>
> Press F12 for boot menu.
>
> =3D=3D=3D
>
> Regards,
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> Ruben
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Morgan Reed <morgan.s.reed@gmail.com>
> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2019 18:52:13 +1100
> Subject: x86intrin.h not found after 10.4->11.2 upgrade
> Hi All,
>
>       Finally got around to upgrading my NAS which was running FreeBSD 10=
.4
> to a supported version (11.2).
>
> Ran into an issue when I came to do a portupgrade -a to update all my
> installed ports, a number of the ports are failing with "x86intrin.h No
> such file or directory", not sure what's going on there.
>
> I've updated my src tree just in case it was something that only got adde=
d
> in 11, no change.
>
> All the similar reports I found online were related to OLD versions of gc=
c
> (e.g. 4.3), which is not relevant since we're using clang (I assume
> anyway), but I reinstalled llvm60 from package just in case, no change
> again.
>
> An pointers would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
>
> Morgan
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Marek Zarychta <zarychtam@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl>
> To: Stefan Bethke <stb@lassitu.de>
> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
> Bcc:
> Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2019 10:34:01 +0100
> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 12 and Nocona
>
>
> W dniu 03.01.2019 o 14:13, Stefan Bethke pisze:
> >> I have under supervision a few old servers running 11.2-STABLE. The
> >> hardware is almost for retirement, but still in working condition. It'=
s
> >> all old Nocona NetBurst microarchitecture. I have recently tried do
> >> upgrade OS two of them to 12.0-STABLE, but failed. When I use old
> >> bootloader the boot freezes on blue highlighted "Booting" stage, when =
I
> >> tried to use 12 loader, it freezes earlier, on loading kernel modules.
> >> The kernel was compiled from fresh sources for CPUTYPE?=3Dnocona.
> >> 11.2-STABLE is fine with this optimization and the same kernel boots
> >> fine on newer hardware.
> >>
> >> It is fair, that 11 EOL is expected September 30, 2021 and these serve=
rs
> >> will likely be retired before this date, but some questions arise:
> >>
> >> Is such old hardware still supported? Is it possible (how to) debug th=
e
> >> booting process?
> >
> > The first step is to try with known-good bits: can you boot these
> machines off the 12.0 ISO or memstick images? Can you load your kernel an=
d
> modules with the loader from the ISO/memstick? Does GENERIC built without
> any flags work?
> >
> > If any of these don=E2=80=99t work, try to be as specific as possible w=
hen
> reporting problems. For example, the exact make of mainboard (kenv output=
)
> and the BIOS version, and any relevant BIOS settings are likely important
> for problems regarding the loader. If the kernel and modules load, you ca=
n
> try a verbose boot to see better how far the kernel gets.
> >
> > I=E2=80=99d be really surprised if the CPUs themselves would cause trou=
ble.
>
>
> The first step is done. The affected hardware doesn't boot from official
> 12.0-RELEASE CD either. Loader also freezes at the stage of loading
> kernel modules. These servers are old Maxdata Platinum 500 and 3200.
> Some time ago I have submitted dmesgs to NYC BUG dmesg repository[1][2].
>
> Both configurations are fine with 11-STABLE, so I am not going to
> upgrade them and I am replying only FYI.
>
>
> [1] https://dmesgd.nycbug.org/index.cgi?do=3Dview&id=3D3790
> [2] https://dmesgd.nycbug.org/index.cgi?do=3Dview&id=3D4111
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Marek Zarychta
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Morgan Reed <morgan.s.reed@gmail.com>
> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2019 22:50:23 +1100
> Subject: Re: x86intrin.h not found after 10.4->11.2 upgrade
> Just did a find across /usr for the file and it's definitely there so I'm
> not sure why the compiler can't find it :/
>
> # find /usr -name x86intrin.h
> /usr/include/x86intrin.h
> /usr/src/contrib/llvm/tools/clang/lib/Headers/x86intrin.h
>
> /usr/local/lib/gcc7/gcc/x86_64-portbld-freebsd11.2/7.4.0/include/x86intri=
n.h
> /usr/local/llvm60/lib/clang/6.0.1/include/x86intrin.h
> /usr/lib/clang/6.0.0/include/x86intrin.h
>
> This system's been around the block (started out as 9.3 I think, had a fe=
w
> upgrades over the years) which would explain the gcc7 stuff.
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 6:52 PM Morgan Reed <morgan.s.reed@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> >       Finally got around to upgrading my NAS which was running FreeBSD
> > 10.4 to a supported version (11.2).
> >
> > Ran into an issue when I came to do a portupgrade -a to update all my
> > installed ports, a number of the ports are failing with "x86intrin.h No
> > such file or directory", not sure what's going on there.
> >
> > I've updated my src tree just in case it was something that only got
> added
> > in 11, no change.
> >
> > All the similar reports I found online were related to OLD versions of
> gcc
> > (e.g. 4.3), which is not relevant since we're using clang (I assume
> > anyway), but I reinstalled llvm60 from package just in case, no change
> > again.
> >
> > An pointers would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
> >
> > Morgan
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
> -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Stefan Bethke <stb@lassitu.de>
> To: Marek Zarychta <zarychtam@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl>
> Cc: FreeBSD Stable <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>, Warner Losh <
> imp@freebsd.org>, Kyle Evans <kevans@freebsd.org>, Toomas Soome <
> tsoome@freebsd.org>
> Bcc:
> Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2019 12:51:48 +0100
> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 12 and Nocona
> Am 08.01.2019 um 10:34 schrieb Marek Zarychta <
> zarychtam@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl>:
> > W dniu 03.01.2019 o 14:13, Stefan Bethke pisze:
> >>> I have under supervision a few old servers running 11.2-STABLE. The
> >>> hardware is almost for retirement, but still in working condition. It=
's
> >>> all old Nocona NetBurst microarchitecture. I have recently tried do
> >>> upgrade OS two of them to 12.0-STABLE, but failed. When I use old
> >>> bootloader the boot freezes on blue highlighted "Booting" stage, when=
 I
> >>> tried to use 12 loader, it freezes earlier, on loading kernel modules=
.
> >>> The kernel was compiled from fresh sources for CPUTYPE?=3Dnocona.
> >>> 11.2-STABLE is fine with this optimization and the same kernel boots
> >>> fine on newer hardware.
> >>>
> >>> It is fair, that 11 EOL is expected September 30, 2021 and these
> servers
> >>> will likely be retired before this date, but some questions arise:
> >>>
> >>> Is such old hardware still supported? Is it possible (how to) debug t=
he
> >>> booting process?
> >>
> >> The first step is to try with known-good bits: can you boot these
> machines off the 12.0 ISO or memstick images? Can you load your kernel an=
d
> modules with the loader from the ISO/memstick? Does GENERIC built without
> any flags work?
> >>
> >> If any of these don=E2=80=99t work, try to be as specific as possible =
when
> reporting problems. For example, the exact make of mainboard (kenv output=
)
> and the BIOS version, and any relevant BIOS settings are likely important
> for problems regarding the loader. If the kernel and modules load, you ca=
n
> try a verbose boot to see better how far the kernel gets.
> >>
> >> I=E2=80=99d be really surprised if the CPUs themselves would cause tro=
uble.
> >
> >
> > The first step is done. The affected hardware doesn't boot from officia=
l
> > 12.0-RELEASE CD either. Loader also freezes at the stage of loading
> > kernel modules. These servers are old Maxdata Platinum 500 and 3200.
> > Some time ago I have submitted dmesgs to NYC BUG dmesg repository[1][2]=
.
> >
> > Both configurations are fine with 11-STABLE, so I am not going to
> > upgrade them and I am replying only FYI.
> >
> >
> > [1] https://dmesgd.nycbug.org/index.cgi?do=3Dview&id=3D3790 <
> https://dmesgd.nycbug.org/index.cgi?do=3Dview&id=3D3790>;
> > [2] https://dmesgd.nycbug.org/index.cgi?do=3Dview&id=3D4111 <
> https://dmesgd.nycbug.org/index.cgi?do=3Dview&id=3D4111>;
> I think it would be great to get some input from someone familiar with th=
e
> new loader. I=E2=80=99ve cc=E2=80=99ed Warner, Kyle and Toomas, as they w=
ere listed in the
> quarterly status report.
>
>
> Stefan
>
> --
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>
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