From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 15 17:53:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C297716A4C8 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2006 17:53:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hans@lambermont.dyndns.org) Received: from lambermont.dyndns.org (lambermont.dyndns.org [82.93.47.245]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF28643D45 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2006 17:53:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hans@lambermont.dyndns.org) Received: by lambermont.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9A1D022DC00; Fri, 15 Sep 2006 19:53:46 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 19:53:46 +0200 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060915175346.GF15445@leia.lambermont.dyndns.org> References: <20060909182831.GA32004@FS.denninger.net> <200609100159.k8A1xAIn089481@drugs.dv.isc.org> <450AA29D.9000700@cs.tu-berlin.de> <200609151616.k8FGG23C065997@fire.jhs.private> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200609151616.k8FGG23C065997@fire.jhs.private> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i From: hans@lambermont.dyndns.org (Hans Lambermont) Subject: Re: ARRRRGH! Guys, who's breaking -STABLE's GMIRROR code?! X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 17:53:50 -0000 Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Stable is a misnomer that harms FreeBSD somewhat. I agree. > A promoter of FreeBSD I know has long encouraged people to upgrade > from release to stable. Some don't & won't realise Stable is Not > necessarily Stable, & may get burnt. Much of the world speaks English > only as a 2nd language. They won't benefit from the double trouble of > foreign + weird BSD geek speak: "Stable isn't Stable ? Yes or No !" > "It's stable, but it's OK to crash ? - I'll go Linux !" > > Imagine a boat labelled Stable: It sinks. The designers claim: "Tough! > We left the Application Interface (routes to bars & toilets) stable, > but changed other stuff. Hey ! Stable never meant Stable ! > > It'd be some work to eradicate the misnomer, but the name's perhaps > less entrenched than one might guess, eg: > ftp ftp.freebsd.org > cd /pub/FreeBSD > dir > lrwxr-xr-x 1 ftpuser ftpusers 19 Mar 24 14:58 FreeBSD-stable -> branches/4.0-stable > cd FreeBSD-stable > 550 No such directory. Why not rename 'stable' into 'stable-api' ? -- Hans Lambermont