From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 27 03:22:17 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44A7B16A4CE; Thu, 27 May 2004 03:22:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fillmore.dyndns.org (port-212-202-49-130.reverse.qsc.de [212.202.49.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B7AB43D3F; Thu, 27 May 2004 03:22:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eikemeier@fillmore-labs.com) Received: from [172.16.0.2] (helo=fillmore-labs.com) by fillmore.dyndns.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34; FreeBSD) id 1BTHzL-000A0g-4J; Thu, 27 May 2004 12:20:31 +0200 Message-ID: <40B5C0B2.7070600@fillmore-labs.com> Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 12:19:30 +0200 From: Oliver Eikemeier Organization: Fillmore Labs GmbH - http://www.fillmore-labs.com/ MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tobias Roth References: <40B2B7D4.5040106@users.sourceforge.net> <20040525210812.9728A5D08@ptavv.es.net> <20040526181624.GB55179@empiric.dek.spc.org> <40B5899E.7030506@fillmore-labs.com> <20040527073700.GA16531@speedy.unibe.ch> <40B5A069.8080909@fillmore-labs.com> <20040527084903.GA17193@speedy.unibe.ch> In-Reply-To: <20040527084903.GA17193@speedy.unibe.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: KMail/1.5.9 cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-rc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports and /etc/rc.d/ [was: Where to put my own startup script] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 10:22:17 -0000 Tobias Roth wrote: >>>2) will be very nice. PR 56736 from eik seems to address this very >>>elegantly. ports that need to be started early can be started directly >>>after >>>the dummy PORTS dependency, all others that do not explicitly request a >>>specific startup order should be started at the end of rc.d/. this of >>>course also solves 4). >> >>You should not really use PORTS, but whatever you need to run. > > i don't understand what you mean by that. i was just trying to briefly > describe what your patch from PR 56736 does. maybe i got it wrong? PORTS is *very* early in the startup process. Most ports require at least syslogd, so DAEMON or even LOGIN is far more appropriate. If you need to start early, maybe SERVERS is a good choice. >>>now, shouldn't racoon be started before mountcritremote? #$%#!#, i think >>>i just shot myself in the foot. comments please :-) i am sure that can >>>be fixed elegantly as well. >> >>The problem here is that /usr might not be a local filesystem, so touching >>anything there before mountcritremote is not a really good idea. > > that is exactly what i wanted to say. since racoon might be needed to > mount remote filesystems, and at the same time possibly being located on > one, we have a problem. You can't do that by default. If you want to support this you have to hand-tune your configuration. -Oliver