From nobody Tue Jun 28 17:45:43 2022 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAF94873412 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2022 17:45:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bob@proulx.com) Received: from havoc.proulx.com (havoc.proulx.com [96.88.95.61]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4LXX7h6wp0z3HX2 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2022 17:45:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bob@proulx.com) Received: from joseki.proulx.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by havoc.proulx.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F22D2FB for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2022 11:45:44 -0600 (MDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=proulx.com; s=dkim2048; t=1656438344; bh=HQWNucN5l6VrmOOr5bOf1YSvpZeoapiGRZPFy6hMq5o=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=Vn6Wh1aVXZfloXjarNcmo8bD5J5rGBXwIdyen7h5oSMwQWFQhRrDKzZlA+NBzxt6D 8qrSy0R2fv6FAVlCGJrJOR3nDt6E3jGJIzytovUfA6ypRD+GfQItkITIUUK9Qje1dF qsI9MKoLIODAzyP01GBnVRsO/1o8EQfxm6RMAB0VIgpJ+UwHxgCCPMsjTYcqj6Pc8+ cit9/X5tR4HHfWFMd3jTa3F+5VvYKkw0NB9uL/CsDO+u188z4qXhSRTzvJmnjhuHWT 3vSjMxuuqSq9Y/iS1EVsfHath2ju3bLaaWrEElV/RFFdnG69yU7n/4SkPFBQSOElzZ rZU5NZVXA4nNw== Received: from hysteria.proulx.com (hysteria.proulx.com [192.168.230.119]) by joseki.proulx.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6B2F96860 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2022 11:45:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: by hysteria.proulx.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8C1AD2DCA5; Tue, 28 Jun 2022 11:45:43 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2022 11:45:43 -0600 From: Bob Proulx To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hardware recommendation Message-ID: <20220628112504460286639@bob.proulx.com> References: <25275.14490.634554.58598@jerusalem.litteratus.org> List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <25275.14490.634554.58598@jerusalem.litteratus.org> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4LXX7h6wp0z3HX2 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=proulx.com header.s=dkim2048 header.b=Vn6Wh1aV; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=proulx.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of bob@proulx.com designates 96.88.95.61 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=bob@proulx.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[proulx.com:s=dkim2048]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[proulx.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[proulx.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7922, ipnet:96.64.0.0/11, country:US] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N Robert Huff wrote: > I'd like to replace it with a _reliable_ (the old one lasted 10+ > years at moderate loads) consumer-grade SATA II or higher drive of at > least 500 gbytes. > Any particular product lines getting consistantly good reviews? For 500 GB I would use a RAID pair of Samsung 800 series EVO SSDs. Actually have used them exactly that size. Be aware of the new Samsung QVO series which has a complex behavior. https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers/2022-April/000964.html Backblaze publishes their failure rates on disk drives. https://www.backblaze.com/b2/hard-drive-test-data.html Their latest blog. https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-drive-stats-for-q1-2022/ I RAID everything so that a single drive failure won't cause an immediate failure. Which means that I am concerned about issues that specifically affect RAID. Beware of recent changes to error control! https://raid.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Timeout_Mismatch On a personal note I just had a 1TB Hitachi Deskstar at 11+ years of continuous duty fail. The sibling disk at 106367 hours is still running! Those were the best drives! More recently I have been having good luck with Toshiba in the lower single digit ranges such as the 4TB N300 NAS drives. Western Digital CMR drives have also been good but beware of SMR. https://blog.westerndigital.com/dmsmr-device-managed-shingled-magnetic-recording/ Bob