From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 22 18:06:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4464016A417 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2008 18:06:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.224]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F167513C4D1 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2008 18:06:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i29so1435345wxd.7 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2008 10:06:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.226.2 with SMTP id y2mr4283048wfg.64.1201025196300; Tue, 22 Jan 2008 10:06:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio ( [67.189.206.211]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 39sm14779369wrl.32.2008.01.22.10.06.34 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 22 Jan 2008 10:06:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:06:30 -0500 From: Gerard To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080122130630.53b0e624@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <47962B85.50805@student.utwente.nl> References: <20080122125651.V2077@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080122123149.05837a85@scorpio> <47962B85.50805@student.utwente.nl> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.5; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q User-Agent: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.3; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/iRcFhiIllhJUtWl1FEGVD3Z"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Subject: Re: are we CRIMINALS? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 18:06:39 -0000 --Sig_/iRcFhiIllhJUtWl1FEGVD3Z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:44:37 +0000 "Alphons \"Fonz\" van Werven" wrote: > Gerard wrote: >=20 > > It is not the 'tool' that is being addressed here; but rather, what > > the individual did with it. >=20 > CONCLUSIONS OF LAW >=20 > 1. Ritz's behavior in conducting a zone transfer was unauthorized > within the meaning of the North Dakota Computer Crime Law. That is precisely what I am referring to. Bill Moran makes a rather pointed comment: As far as the cracker, I hope he gets the chair. While that may seem slightly harsh, at least for a first offense, it does point up the fact that people like Ritz are a blight upon the legitimate computer users community. --=20 Gerard gerard@seibercom.net You can rent this space for only $5 a week. --Sig_/iRcFhiIllhJUtWl1FEGVD3Z Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkeWMKcACgkQ6DWTaTcTwMkUDwCfUvxEQ/zZwmwu2SPQIdtnxqlR qPsAn0g3TfKzKNvW8puNMbWXVd/I1kY0 =Unu6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/iRcFhiIllhJUtWl1FEGVD3Z--