From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 11 15:22:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89F8A1065670 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:22:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcigar@ulb.ac.be) Received: from mxin.vub.ac.be (mxin.vub.ac.be [134.184.129.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D2EC8FC12 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:22:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcigar@ulb.ac.be) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AggBAESyQEmkD30E/2dsb2JhbAAIzHuCeQ Received: from bebif01.ulb.ac.be (HELO [10.0.0.194]) ([164.15.125.4]) by smtp.vub.ac.be with ESMTP; 11 Dec 2008 16:22:34 +0100 From: Julien Cigar To: Wojciech Puchar In-Reply-To: <20081211155500.H1327@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <4be2da2e0812062344y26eddcc9sf589531d10c71a1c@mail.gmail.com> <20081207093713.O5433@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081207082932.04a7cf16@scorpio> <11167f520812070853i3b6fa6dei6e5c71669416470@mail.gmail.com> <20081207191727.V1610@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081207193517.GA20905@laverenz.de> <20081207121431.5dcb37f9@gom.home> <1228733482.4495.14.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20081211122714.W4172@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081211071914.278ae942@scorpio> <20081211133632.114d77c7.freebsd@edvax.de> <1229002806.2749.51.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be> <20081211155500.H1327@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:23:04 +0100 Message-Id: <1229008984.2749.74.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:22:35 -0000 On Thu, 2008-12-11 at 15:56 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > - on almost all my machines I have problems with CD/DVD drives, mostly > > things like READ_BIG timeout, etc. I tried almost everything (disabling > > ACPI, DMA, upgrading the drive BIOS, etc), disabling DMA resolved some > > problems, but it's still impossible to burn a DVD for example. > > i don't have. i use only atapicam+cd driver, no acd. Of course I tried atapicam too (I even removed acd totally from the kernel), but it doesn't resolve the problem(s) > > > - my mouse (a Logitec MX 300, USB) is still undetected at boot. Every > > time I have to unplug/plug it after boot. Not a big deal I admit, but > > boring. > > - USB mass storage plug/unplug sometimes causes system panic. I know > > never got such thing, except when i forgot to unmount > "except when i forgot to unmount" -> yep, the problem lies here, it's so natural to just unplug an USB device > > that this is a well known bug that require some rearchitecting and that > > a proper umount has always been the way to umount a drive, but, > > honestly, you cannot seriously convince someone to use FreeBSD with > > things like this ... > > - Altough ports are fantastic, building things like OpenOffice or ... is > > just inhuman, especially when you cannot use -j for building ports (but > > it's being resolved I think). Of course there are packages, but it's far > > less friendly to use (and manage) than apt-get/dpkg. > > you may pkg_add from ftp repository of course .. too bad that there is no pkg_upgrade -- Julien Cigar Belgian Biodiversity Platform http://www.biodiversity.be Université Libre de Bruxelles (ULB) Campus de la Plaine CP 257 Bâtiment NO, Bureau 4 N4 115C (Niveau 4) Boulevard du Triomphe, entrée ULB 2 B-1050 Bruxelles Mail: jcigar@ulb.ac.be @biobel: http://biobel.biodiversity.be/person/show/471 Tel : 02 650 57 52