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Date:      Wed, 05 Mar 2003 00:53:56 -0800
From:      Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
To:        Bob Bishop <rb@gid.co.uk>
Cc:        Peter Wemm <peter@wemm.org>, Mike Barcroft <mike@FreeBSD.ORG>, Tim Robbins <tjr@FreeBSD.ORG>, freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Removal of netns - politically correct version
Message-ID:  <3E65BB24.3E37D90D@mindspring.com>
References:  <3E6539B5.2F5D31B@mindspring.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20030305084442.037e9fa0@gid.co.uk>

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Bob Bishop wrote:
> Here's a hint:
> 
> "The Apollo Domain and XNS networking protocols will no longer be offered
> after Cisco IOS Release 12.2. Information about these protocols will not
> appear in future releases of the Cisco IOS software documentation set."
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/iosswrel/ps1835/products_configuration_guide_chapter09186a008007fba7.html
> 
> He's dead, Jim.


The code is still useful as a simple implementation, much more
easily understood by the student than the current TCP/IP stack,
for certain.

Given that the current TCP/IP stack no longer matches the Stevens
books, and given that Stevens is too dead to update the books to
the new FreeBSD stack, even if he wanted to, it's useful to have
a relatively simple set of code that can be understood without a
book that's not getting written.

Also, it's interesting from the perspective of people with living
Xerox Alto hardware (not many, but they do exist), but I fully
admit that that's not a compelling reason.

On the other hand, there's no compelling reason to dike it out,
if it can be made to work.  I would argue that ISA support is
more or less just as obsolete, as is 486 support, as is the F00F
bug workaround, as is ... a lot of code that's still there.

In any case, Peter pointed out that my patch was against -stable,
not -current.  I'm in the process of CVSup'ing new sources now,
and will update the patch against -current, and post it, most
likely tomorrow morning, if the CVSup doesn't complete in the next
hour.

-- Terry

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