From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 15 03:02:29 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A3DF16A418 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 03:02:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Received: from sippysoft.com (gk.360sip.com [72.236.70.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 361FE13C45D for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 03:02:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [192.168.0.3] ([204.244.149.125]) (authenticated bits=0) by sippysoft.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBF32Q2Z036708 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:02:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <476343B4.8080208@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:02:12 -0800 From: Maxim Sobolev Organization: Sippy Software, Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ivan Voras References: <47606C09.2070209@isc.org> <47609F0A.7010805@clearchain.com> <47609FE3.8040606@barafranca.com> <4760B444.1080604@clearchain.com> <06CAC7FC-DB58-441D-A6E0-76D1D8133393@tamu.edu> <86ir31xwlu.fsf@ds4.des.no> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ZFS melting under postgres... X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 03:02:29 -0000 Ivan Voras wrote: > David Duchscher wrote: >> On Dec 14, 2007, at 6:57 AM, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: >> >>> David Duchscher writes: >>>> So does anybody know of a battery backed NVRAM card that can be used >>>> with FreeBSD that the ZIL could be offloaded to? >>> Any CF card or similar will do. You don't need battery backup for >>> flash memory. >> I did think of that but is a CF card faster than a good SAS or SATA >> drive? > > Not in transfer rate, but it could help hugely with seek-intensive IO > loads (since seeks are instantaneous on flash or other solid-state > drives). In theory, they could be of immense benefit for databases and > seek-intensive operations on file systems, but the limited bulk transfer > rates and relatively small sizes (for decent money) currently prevent > their wide-spread use. That's no longer true. You can't get more than 5-10MB/s from seek-intensive RAID0 with two 15K drives, while 20-30MB/s is not a problem for the comparable priced/sized SSD drive. -Maxim