From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 30 14:53:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B371B682; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 14:53:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nwhitehorn@freebsd.org) Received: from smtpauth2.wiscmail.wisc.edu (wmauth2.doit.wisc.edu [144.92.197.222]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 83C1D2AF1; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 14:53:44 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from avs-daemon.smtpauth2.wiscmail.wisc.edu by smtpauth2.wiscmail.wisc.edu (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.01(7.0.4.27.0) 64bit (built Aug 30 2012)) id <0MSC00900MK1M800@smtpauth2.wiscmail.wisc.edu>; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 09:53:43 -0500 (CDT) X-Spam-PmxInfo: Server=avs-2, Version=6.0.3.2322014, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.2107409, Antispam-Data: 2013.8.30.144215, SenderIP=0.0.0.0 X-Spam-Report: AuthenticatedSender=yes, SenderIP=0.0.0.0 Received: from wanderer.tachypleus.net (172-12-164-50.lightspeed.wlfrct.sbcglobal.net [172.12.164.50]) by smtpauth2.wiscmail.wisc.edu (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.01(7.0.4.27.0) 64bit (built Aug 30 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MSC009BKMPG8530@smtpauth2.wiscmail.wisc.edu>; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 09:53:42 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <5220B1F3.1030807@freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 07:53:39 -0700 From: Nathan Whitehorn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130811 Thunderbird/17.0.8 To: David Chisnall Subject: Re: GCC withdraw References: <20130822200902.GG94127@funkthat.com> <201308291057.43027.jhb@freebsd.org> <8F836479-BC3A-4679-A7AA-3BCDD34AE6C5@FreeBSD.org> <52204746.2070900@freebsd.org> In-reply-to: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 Cc: FreeBSD Current , Boris Samorodov , toolchain@FreeBSD.org, "freebsd-current@freebsd.org CURRENT" , "Sam Fourman Jr." X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 14:53:44 -0000 On 08/30/13 00:35, David Chisnall wrote: > On 30 Aug 2013, at 08:18, Julian Elischer wrote: > >> As far as I'm concerned we can even slate it for >> "possible removal in 10.2-- if clang has proven up to the task" > I would be happy to ship gcc, as long as: > > - It's explicitly marked as deprecated and due for removal at some point in the 10.x timeframe. > - libstdc++ is gone (the amount of pain it's causing ports is phenomenal). > So the real driver here is switching to libc++. Is there really no way at all to use it with gcc? If, even with hacking, we could arrange that to work then it seems that all of our problems would go away. -Nathan