From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 20 03:53:55 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 68D4D113 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2015 03:53:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ipmail07.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail07.adl2.internode.on.net [150.101.137.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA648842 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2015 03:53:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ppp118-210-40-247.lns20.adl2.internode.on.net (HELO leader.local) ([118.210.40.247]) by ipmail07.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 20 Feb 2015 14:18:43 +1030 Message-ID: <54E6AE88.3020302@ShaneWare.Biz> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 14:18:24 +1030 From: Shane Ambler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RW , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: default pager (csh) References: <021CBC62-4CC6-4137-897E-FE482139E09B@westryn.net> <201502190116.t1J1GxAw028289@mail.karels.net> <20150219145251.7f6b4fd5@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20150219145251.7f6b4fd5@gumby.homeunix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 03:53:55 -0000 On 20/02/2015 01:22, RW wrote: > On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 19:16:59 -0600 > Mike Karels wrote: > > >> Trivia: the version of more on BSD systems actually is derived from >> less, not the original version of more. > > Actually, more is less > > $ md5 -r `which less ` `which more ` > 50404f1beaa4e1261407190a88494b59 /usr/bin/less > 50404f1beaa4e1261407190a88494b59 /usr/bin/more Yes more has been less for some time, trouble is it is programmed to behave differently based on the name used to call it so they aren't the same. Try this - echo "test data" > testfile more testfile less testfile So the debate over which is better continues.... Like everything, if you don't like the way it works you find a setting to make it work the way you want. Whether you ask on a mailing list or google it you will find a way to configure it your way. As long as it works, the default is of little concern to most. I don't even remember what year I set my pager to more, till I just looked I would have guessed I was using the default. Whatever intro I got started with used more as a pager and I have just used it since. I just think '| more' not '| less' -- FreeBSD - the place to B...Software Developing Shane Ambler