From owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 1 18:36:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B249D1C9 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 18:36:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from berend@pobox.com) Received: from sasl.smtp.pobox.com (a-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com [208.72.237.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BB8A2ED2 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 18:36:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sasl.smtp.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by a-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8FEBEEC4; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 14:36:12 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=date :message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=sasl; bh=saywVbdOancZLTX+Ntm8+ADjzSk=; b=peoGPuuEAprVG2lY8ktOh6T2wSDu Ozzm96V5yxIqfEVufJ04ANMJZXh1GKwo+gPHteQFeZNXNlEkHE1AL1C8Dw/E7Qqr 0T0FVjLKYw7Ko9fonqzju+FIJKg4Cdh2lgL/Dg7cub4FoOhJ3oMsVhJXZJW3BkQd 0wpTI+4KcnKLzdg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=pobox.com; h=date:message-id :from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=sasl; b=wipSx/ QXwoeH9mtK1lWXBgxPq5wiKVSFkSWwuBMDixFIkgJFZvN+HLSGZSbi/kmrhOLa4L EX5ZUpSC17COPGmOdyb+1LMl80X/c8Cx8iyKphamCX4GTnYEVZX+BwsD7SllK8gI 0Is8cCtMMhP9DwtvuGBOVt4zzrCdXPZUWWtrk= Received: from a-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by a-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF278EEC3; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 14:36:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bmach.nederware.nl (unknown [27.252.192.216]) by a-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 12C1AEEC2; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 14:36:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from quadrio.nederware.nl (quadrio.nederware.nl [192.168.33.13]) by bmach.nederware.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CE312F33D; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 07:36:11 +1300 (NZDT) Received: from quadrio.nederware.nl (quadrio.nederware.nl [127.0.0.1]) by quadrio.nederware.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id F35924043FE8; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 07:36:10 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2013 07:36:10 +1300 Message-ID: <87d2nohm91.wl%berend@pobox.com> From: Berend de Boer To: Jordan Hubbard Subject: Re: zfs: the exponential file system from hell In-Reply-To: References: <52457A32.2090105@fsn.hu> <77F6465C-4E76-4EE9-88B5-238FFB4E0161@sarenet.es> <20130930234401.GA68360@neutralgood.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) SEMI-EPG/1.14.7 (Harue) FLIM/1.14.9 (=?UTF-8?B?R29qxY0=?=) APEL/10.8 EasyPG/1.0.0 Emacs/24.3 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) MULE/6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) Organization: Xplain Technology Ltd MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI-EPG 1.14.7 - "Harue") Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="pgp-sign-Multipart_Wed_Oct__2_07:36:10_2013-1"; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Pobox-Relay-ID: 58ADB094-2AC8-11E3-B962-CE710E5B5709-48001098!a-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com Cc: freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2013 18:36:16 -0000 --pgp-sign-Multipart_Wed_Oct__2_07:36:10_2013-1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>>>> "Jordan" =3D=3D Jordan Hubbard writes: Jordan> Given that we have the sources to df, I guess we should Jordan> consider the question begged: Do we want to change it to Jordan> DTRT for zfs filesystems? There's no Unix Law=E2=84=A2 that sa= ys Jordan> "df(1) must use the output of statfs(2) directly and can Jordan> use no longer sources of information!" What an amount of emails to this list it would safe! --=20 In favour obviously, Berend de Boer --pgp-sign-Multipart_Wed_Oct__2_07:36:10_2013-1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: OpenPGP Digital Signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAABCAAGBQJSSxYaAAoJEKOfeD48G3g5fOUQAKGjoblHb2tOQAxEdyX0gaI0 OEOdq3Xy7kLel0HHg5EmtAfrLChE7nK+sn/SxEqOAmNeW/Hde+LdCdM//wR8TyU3 OFLWV8Iz2XYWlscwPAJ8hZWZE83F7KvAbBWnSBTe9Z3FcYi0jZk7D4IrONkjtcTZ Z60dZFtAwCmUSvd3ba+/aPSTMr/J6oI04FBVzvcOuPn6TQS+h5Z3RueVaYLmCC6u 9zdtn0CaFLZyH9D5V76LdTmmr33GLGWSP0kL5cgZRnR4Nk4ZwWfbhO82UcnfsqMD kSGnQxJXig4Ogsy6TVsv/KDxB/JsSc+e98Xtkl52RDqY+PJIHplCxoUqUIampJ6g KkUIituwOerx4z82d/ToU0foOg84dRJPZJpqKPCgXVi7+fnbn2VhrBoMK784uZbU p9nTkA3Cp9VimHHt0Xov3l6GXNgwQ3XbX9losR7tOBLhztVPszfkuF4z4IXYTfTg Io5BbXYJTACoZjjawTsstVFkRwCutHUBNbdjfds7D0RbWZZu0/zRPYzVFWFvnXlJ YkF5o4y+BhD5nBYrc+kVF+FBUSYccgMMhkh6yD6J5l/fJif6lN1bb+24sUA8siui 7cI+ahN/p83Wf5TvY2brX/tP6UTj6XW5k39yhCyiRy3jrtseGjnIhfmpz4g7E/Ej u3Oxk3bIPjArJ8PlFm+W =gKVE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --pgp-sign-Multipart_Wed_Oct__2_07:36:10_2013-1--