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Date:      Wed, 29 Jul 2015 10:10:52 -0700
From:      John-Mark Gurney <jmg@funkthat.com>
To:        George Neville-Neil <gnn@neville-neil.com>
Cc:        Adrian Chadd <adrian.chadd@gmail.com>, freebsd-security@freebsd.org, Daniel Plominski <Daniel@plominski.eu>, FreeBSD Net <freebsd-net@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: remove IPsec SKIPJACK support...
Message-ID:  <20150729171052.GK78154@funkthat.com>
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John-Mark Gurney wrote this message on Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 09:11 -0700:
> George Neville-Neil wrote this message on Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 10:35 -0400:
> > That's fine so long as its removed in HEAD now, and then the warning can 
> > go into 10 aka 10.3.
> 
> As I said, setkey doesn't support it.. and I looked at the ports for
> racoon2 and strongswan (has it in their library, but, and neither support it...  Are there any other
> programs (besides custom software) that can do secdb manipulations that
> could possibly create a skipjack sdb entry?

Checked the other two IKE daemons in ports, and ipsec-tools does not
use it, and isakmpd has a define in the OpenBSD specific headers (which
we don't use), but doesn't use it for anything...

> If not, putting warning into 9 and 10 seems excessive for a feature that
> people can't even use...
> 
> > On 28 Jul 2015, at 13:25, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> > 
> > > I'd put together a deprecation plan, which starts with the kernel
> > > warning that this stuff is being removed, MFC that to stable/10 and
> > > stable/9 so people aren't surprised when they upgrade, and then have
> > > it removed in 11.

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