From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Nov 19 14:24:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-63-202-178-138.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.202.178.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6710837B479 for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 14:24:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.0/8.11.1) with ESMTP id eAJMVIF09854; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 14:31:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Message-Id: <200011192231.eAJMVIF09854@mass.osd.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Cc: Brandon Fosdick , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dangerously Dedicated In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 19 Nov 2000 15:15:58 MST." <14872.20766.675326.503604@nomad.yogotech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 14:31:18 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > Using what I consider to be a artifact of another operating system on a > > > machine that doesn't use that OS seems silly to me. Unless, of course, > > > that artifact has some useful feature(s) or functionality. If it does, I'm > > > all ears. > > > > What "you consider" doesn't have much bearing on the situation. As for > > useful functionality, this has been done to death. It should be enough > > for you to accept that the platform requires it > > Except that it doesn't, as 'dangerously dedicated' mode shows. "DD" mode has never worked properly. Ever since it's been in existence, it's show that a valid slice table is necessary. > >, and that a goodly slice > > of platform-compliant firmware and software will fail in undesirable ways > > if it's not present. All of which has been explained in excruciating > > detail before. > > Except that the software hasn't always required it previously, and it > previously did not fail. It has, and it previously did fail. > Some would call this 'regression', but I suppose others will call it > 'progress'. Some would just call it "making stuff work", which is the whole point of the exercise. -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message