From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sat Aug 28 22:38:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83E7D14E5E for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 22:38:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@wintelcom.net) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA20775; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 15:53:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@wintelcom.net) Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 22:53:42 +0000 (GMT) From: Alfred Perlstein To: Robert Sexton Cc: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Need Pointers on FreeBSD Presentation. In-Reply-To: <19990828233042.C5101@tabby.kudra.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 28 Aug 1999, Robert Sexton wrote: > What have I done? I've offered to give a FreeBSd presentation to the > local Linux Users group. At first I thought I'd give the standard > "Why FreeBSD is good" spiel that I give to my customers. I realize > that they generally trust me, so I don't have to work so hard. > However, the User group guy has asked me to 'Compare it with Linux', > which leaves me a little cold. I'll have an opportunity to install it > from scratch, to show it off. I though I'd put the emphasis on 'BSD', > with FreeBSD as a particular, Intel/Alpha oriented branch. > > I had been thinking along these lines: > > 1. Loose history. > 2. Install it over ethernet from my machine. > 3. Why its good for admins: > like most of the other BSD's. Administration is simpler. > Easy maintenence via cvsup, make world, etc. > ports. > compatibility with Linux/SCO/BDSI binaries. > 4. Demo cvsup. > 5. Install a port. > > Any other ideas? Along the lines of a cooking show... After the cvsup, start a "make buildworld" Have another machine with an already built world on hand... show them how after buildworld, you can mount the /usr/src and /usr/obj dirs and do upgrades as simply as: (after starting NFS on the client/servers) mkdir /usr/src /usr/obj mount buildserver:/usr/src /usr/src mount buildserver:/usr/obj /usr/obj cd /usr/src make installworld One of the greatest assests to people managing labs or farms of FreeBSD boxes imo. the same "install/upgrade server" can be done via ports. Also explain the concept of the entire distro being stable or current and maintained, instead of "should i grab this RPM or this newer BETA" it becomes: "well they just put it into stable, i guess it's time to buildworld..." -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message