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Date:      03 Feb 98 21:42:30 +0530
From:      "Atish" <ACHOWDHU.IN.ORACLE.COM.ofcmail@in.oracle.com>
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Subject:   Auto-reply: Re: WebAdmin
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Hi, 
	I am on leave till mid Feb'98. Will try to get back to you as soon as 
possible. 
 
-regards 
Atish 
 
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Telephone: (088) 2256099  Extn:496/atish 
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Date: 03 Feb 98 21:12:11
From:Colman Reilly <careilly@monoid.cs.tcd.ie>
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[Please redirect this to freebsd-config]

     On Mon, 2 Feb 1998, Adam Turoff wrote:
     
     Depends.
     <INPUT TYPE="HIDDEN"> ?
     
     I've written a couple of web-based SQL databases, and I have been able
     to sucessfully encode enough state into the webpages themselves to make
     the databases useable and stable.
Sure. Now remember we have to assume that people will be attempting to
exploit the admin system as a security hole. We can't trust any state coming
from a HTTP connection.
      
     > Then there's also the question of security.  Running a bunch of
scripts
     > that create users and such against Apache is not secure.  Picking a
port
     > other than 80 or 8080 and possibly using SSL on it is marginally
better.
     >
     
     Possibly.  But then SSL on port 80 would be more than enough.
Enough for what? How many bits of SSL?

	[Lot's of fine talk deleted]

Look at Mike Smiths juliet stuff. Look at my thoughts on Portia/security
stuff. 
Look at the mail archives on this topic. 

I'd really like to see people cooperating on this with a well thought out
structure rather than see three sets of people head out into space. 

Juliet is at: http://www.smith.net.au/~mike/freebsd.html
My stuff is at: http://www.cs.tcd.ie/~careilly/Portia/

Colman

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