From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jan 11 10:25:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA08608 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jan 1996 10:25:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from etinc.com (et-gw.etinc.com [165.254.13.209]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA08603 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 1996 10:25:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from dialup-110.cdmo.com (dialup-110.cdmo.com [204.141.95.167]) by etinc.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA00402 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 1996 13:24:04 -0500 Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 13:24:04 -0500 Message-Id: <199601111824.NAA00402@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: hackers@freebsd.org From: dennis@etinc.com (dennis) Subject: Re: pppd vs ijppp Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I'm not sure who said this but..... >> >> And lastly, I think if you took a show of hands on providers and users >> >> after asking them if they would mind using even 50k to get better >> >> performance i think that I'd be surprised to see even 1 hand not >> >> waving wildly in the air. >> >> >Give them the whole picture. >> >> >'You can have this really cool package which integrates everything you >> >want and is *really* easy to setup. However, it uses about 5% (*) of your >> >CPU. OR, you could have this other version which uses about 1% of your >> >CPU, but it's alot harder to setup and doesn't have as many features.' >> >> >Or, we could all of those features in the kernel, increase your memory >> >use by a couple 100K (always, even if you don't use it), and it would >> >take us 6 months to get it working. :)' >> >> (*) Fine print. Per connection. Perhaps less than 5%. Your premise that you can't have your cake and eat it too is much more of a matter of a lack of design foresight than fact. There are clearly solutions which address both the functional and performance issues. The benefits of pppij can be integrated into a kernel ppp with gains rather than losses of overall appeal. And your concept of how much memory it takes to implement it indicates you're either very young or very inexperienced...as even the semi-old like myself remember doing fairly powerful things in tiny bits of memory...if you just spend a little time thinking about it. Dennis ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Emerging Technologies, Inc. http://www.etinc.com Synchronous Communications Cards and Routers For Discriminating Tastes. 56k to T1 and beyond. Frame Relay, PPP, HDLC, and X.25