From owner-cvs-all Thu Jan 11 12:37: 0 2001 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (winston.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.27.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB6A037B402; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 12:36:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0BKaNi19287; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 12:36:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@winston.osd.bsdi.com) To: Sheldon Hearn Cc: obrien@FreeBSD.org, Doug Barton , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/etc crontab rc src/etc/defaults rc.conf src/etc/mtree BSD.root.dist src/libexec Makefile src/libexec/save-entropy Makefile save-entropy.sh In-Reply-To: Message from Sheldon Hearn of "Thu, 11 Jan 2001 20:54:16 +0200." <8537.979239256@axl.fw.uunet.co.za> Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 12:36:23 -0800 Message-ID: <19283.979245383@winston.osd.bsdi.com> From: Jordan Hubbard Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I'm pretty sure that this has all been discussed before, with quite a > bit of consensus (although some might bitch about the period in the > directory name '/.entropy'. Hmmm, if it was then FreeBSD's diskless boot community never weighed in during the discussions and that's a pity. You're well aware, one assumes, of the fact that many of these people habitually use a read-only root? They're not the only ones either - just about all of the embedded folks who boot out of flash also run RO root and usr filesystems. That's one the big reasons for keeping /var a separate filesystem, at least conceptually, in order that that we might mandate a writable filesystem as part of the hierarchy standard. I'll admit that hier(7) is a little vague on that point, but it's certainly been part of the conventional wisdom for as long as I can remember. I also appreciate the arguments for having /var be "too late" in the boot process, at least as things currently stand, but simply assuming that root is writable as your work-around isn't a very safe solution either. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message