From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 19 22:31:39 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5263E46A for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 22:31:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 20pmail.ess.barracuda.com (20pmail.ess.barracuda.com [64.235.154.232]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8A5141BB7 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 22:31:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from Opium.Pharm.Guru (Opium.Pharm.Guru [162.243.227.187]) by mx1410.ess.rzc.cudaops.com; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 22:31:37 +0000 X-BESS-ID: 1392849097-425077-28462-26218-1 X-BESS-VER: 2.4.2-r1402191942 X-BESS-BRTS-Status: 1 X-OurDotGuru-Mailborder-Watermark: 1393451550.6721@3uymp01odxX6yfQtjmxX2g X-OurDotGuru-Mailborder-From: lucius.rizzo@lucius.xxx X-OurDotGuru-Mailborder-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-0.651, required 3, autolearn=not spam, DKIM_SIGNED 0.10, DKIM_VALID -0.10, DKIM_VALID_AU -0.10, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED 0.00, RP_MATCHES_RCVD -0.55) X-OurDotGuru-Mailborder-IP-Protocol: IPv4 X-OurDotGuru-Mailborder: Found to be clean X-OurDotGuru-Mailborder-ID: 2139540D2B.AE0FB X-OurDotGuru-Mailborder-Information: Please contact your admin for more information Received: from lucius.XxX (lucius.XxX [95.85.22.130]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by Opium.Pharm.Guru (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2139540D2B; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 16:52:30 -0500 (EST) Authentication-Results: Opium.Pharm.Guru; dkim=pass reason="2048-bit key; unprotected key" header.d=lucius.xxx header.i=@lucius.xxx header.b=n3nBy3HH; dkim-adsp=pass Received: from Lucius.XxX (lrizzo@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lucius.XxX (8.14.8/8.14.8) with ESMTP id s1JLqRle004131 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 19 Feb 2014 21:52:27 GMT DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.0 lucius.XxX s1JLqRle004131 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=lucius.xxx; s=default; t=1392846748; bh=LmrPRY3mF/x+Y86bteWPHehoJ6wAL95zSDa8MLHF+NQ=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; z=Date:=20Wed,=2019=20Feb=202014=2021:52:26=20+0000|From:=20Lucius= 20Rizzo=20|To:=20Charles=20Sprickman=20|Cc:=20Pete=20French=20,= 20freebsd-stable@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20Recommend=20FreeBSD= 20VPS|References:=20=0D=0A=20<5303B8F3.8090709@vangyzen.net>=0D= 0A=20<5303E549.8020106@bluerosetech.com>=0D=0A=20=0D=0A=20<98B6A42D-9A63-4E59-BEEB-C82B497 B4AA1@bway.net>|In-Reply-To:=20<98B6A42D-9A63-4E59-BEEB-C82B497B4A A1@bway.net>; b=n3nBy3HHLz/qF/IkPnsEr/gylUdBSEHie4HQP5KrUnZ/gg3tl0fzbC1rEpN2vYGRc t8U78ltbTCPfyBv1jIogLPL/cVaAWlDXRpbo64L8AbKNeu8lm5y4bzhEYdD/Y+nig+ WSw1srLwK9IPQDzXj3hsRAsFznmUeFbFtGqRn6oKSA7+FzOcIadeJMaf3GWtdZnixv PJXJlmkGJDXMhWyq7GejTGOxQ5+zQKGQgS/pa3UuLo2gOOohMaGkY6TZfde7OvwFk4 HbCOzNErxMk9JzKPr8uzvO8M7yKGfnKyZFgsIaz6byWK8YtCrZ5QcyK91Gv+eAIr0R OyoJ1h5WphiXw== Received: (from lrizzo@localhost) by Lucius.XxX (8.14.8/8.14.8/Submit) id s1JLqQIY004130; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 21:52:26 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: Lucius.XxX: lrizzo set sender to Lucius.Rizzo@Lucius.XxX using -f Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 21:52:26 +0000 From: Lucius Rizzo To: Charles Sprickman Subject: Re: Recommend FreeBSD VPS Message-ID: <20140219215226.GA4051@lucius.XxX> References: <5303B8F3.8090709@vangyzen.net> <5303E549.8020106@bluerosetech.com> <98B6A42D-9A63-4E59-BEEB-C82B497B4AA1@bway.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <98B6A42D-9A63-4E59-BEEB-C82B497B4AA1@bway.net> X-Organization: T.gT Consulting - http://t.gt X-Homepage: http://www.Say.Si User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.22 (2013-10-16) X-PWhois-Status: No originator identified Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Pete French X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 22:31:39 -0000 * Charles Sprickman [2014-02-19 15:53]: > On Feb 19, 2014, at 6:34 AM, Pete French wrote: > > > Not sure if what you are after is ajils, but I have had excellent > > experience with Exonetric in the UK. They are the only people I now > > use for FreeBSD hosting, both real hardware and jails. > > Most of these were coming from ColoCrossing IP space. I suggest > googling that company and looking up their blocks on your favorite > RBLs, as there is a bit of drama there, but do note that many of the > very low-cost VPS operations seem to be using this company. > > Be aware of who your neighbors are if your VPS needs to send email, > or if you feel icky about getting a cheap VPS by moving into a shady > neighborhood. I echo your concern. ArsTechnica is running a series on how to run your own mail server. Its actually well laid out. However, running a MTA (Or the entire mail/web) infrastructure is not an easy endeavor. Nor is it always done right. Having newbs delve into this world - past the SEO blogging wordpress spam, will just mean that others who do legitimately run a proper mail server will suffer as increased proliferation of newbs setting up a misconfigured mail server (maybe even have some silly phpsendmail() that is exploited) spam increases. DigitalOcean is quickly becoming very popular and I think are poised to find themselves in a situation like this. However, like any VPS provider, spamming is one of many concerns. I have watched them struggle with massive DDOS on a daily basis... Another very legitimate concerns in spam will be burdened with the plethora of New TLD's hitting the market (I shouldn't really complain I now have two .guru and one .ventures) in 2014. We do however have many layers before messages hit our mail servers... -- | _o _ |_)o_ _ _ |_|_|(_||_|_> | \|/_/_(_) - Lucius.Tel -------------------------------------- ++ "In the long run, every program becomes rococo, and then rubble." ++ ++ -- Alan Perlis ++