From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Oct 22 19:34:02 1995 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id TAA17246 for hackers-outgoing; Sun, 22 Oct 1995 19:34:02 -0700 Received: from etinc.com (etinc-gw.new-york.net [165.254.13.209]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA17241 ; Sun, 22 Oct 1995 19:33:57 -0700 Received: from trumpet.etnet.com (trumpet.etnet.com [129.45.17.35]) by etinc.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA08494; Sun, 22 Oct 1995 22:51:01 -0400 Date: Sun, 22 Oct 1995 22:51:01 -0400 Message-Id: <199510230251.WAA08494@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@FreeBSD.org> From: dennis@etinc.com (dennis) Subject: Re: Bragging rights.. Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >dennis wrote: >> on their switches. If you >> think its the next "great upgrade" you're badly mistaken. > >Why? I don't see where the regional bell's *motivation* is at all the issue. You brought it up. The fact that some RBOCs are pushing ISDN is not what it seems. It costs big bucks to tool-up for ISDN, and once you do you have to sell LOTS of it to recover your costs. The world will change when de-reg hits. The world will also change when switched FR hits. >I understand that you're pretty biased against ISDN in favor of your own Frame Relay >solutions, but let's not go trying to adjust reality to fit the picture you'd like it to >be! If people buy ISDN, it will be a success. So far, people are buying ISDN and all >the technical criticism in the world you may have won't change that fact one iota. They're different markets, Jordan. ISDN will never be private line replacement, its a replacement for dial-up. I have nothing against ISDN, in fact we intend to support the sync solution that I've been discussing. (There's a neat new 512K ISDN concentrator out....crank up your xtals boys!) I said I wouldn't use it myself because I'd rather have a private line. I see no benefit whatsoever in using something thats "included" in the O/S, since there's no one out there that will do it as well as we can...and if we do it it will be portable and immediately available for NetBSD, BSD/OS and Linux and whatever else I decide to sell (which is a LOT bigger market than the FreeBSD market alone). db ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Emerging Technologies, Inc. http://www.etinc.com Synchronous Communications Cards and Routers For Discriminating Tastes. 56k to T1 and beyond. Frame Relay, PPP, HDLC, and X.25