From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 25 17:13:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8729C16A46B for ; Fri, 25 May 2007 17:13:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhein@timing.com) Received: from Daffy.timing.com (smtp.timing.com [206.168.13.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5248113C44C for ; Fri, 25 May 2007 17:13:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhein@timing.com) Received: from gromit.timing.com (gromit.timing.com [206.168.13.209]) by Daffy.timing.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l4PHDCED050975; Fri, 25 May 2007 11:13:12 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from jhein@timing.com) Received: from gromit.timing.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gromit.timing.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l4PHD7qC040188; Fri, 25 May 2007 11:13:07 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from jhein@gromit.timing.com) Received: (from jhein@localhost) by gromit.timing.com (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id l4PHD7eY040185; Fri, 25 May 2007 11:13:07 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from jhein) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18007.6435.195803.239665@gromit.timing.com> Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 11:13:07 -0600 From: John E Hein To: Ruslan Ermilov In-Reply-To: <20070525105514.GC6500@rambler-co.ru> References: <4656BE23.1090607@tomjudge.com> <20070525105514.GC6500@rambler-co.ru> X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 22.0.99.1 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, DK_POLICY_SIGNSOME autolearn=disabled version=3.1.8 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on Daffy.timing.com Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: installworld breaks X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 17:13:14 -0000 Ruslan Ermilov wrote at 14:55 +0400 on May 25, 2007: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/troubleshoot.html#TOUCH-NOT-FOUND Someone should update that doc for the much simpler and probably more common case of someone touching newvers.sh (e.g., cvsup) after doing a buildworld and then trying an installworld without a new buildworld. Exotic things like clock drift and such can be a cause of it, but the FAQ answer doesn't what's really explain the root problem - namely that installworld is trying to do something that it shouldn't be doing (running something that requires touch) because something is "out of date" that should not be (osreldate.h in the OP's example). Maybe a docs person can word that better than I can and fix up that classic FAQ entry.