Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 13:05:51 -0800 (PST) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" <jmb> To: terry@lambert.org (Terry Lambert) Cc: terry@lambert.org, jfieber@indiana.edu, langfod@dihelix.com, hasty@rah.star-gate.com, hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Cool Web page interface to mail + search engine? Message-ID: <199703242105.NAA05854@freefall.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <199703242014.NAA23311@phaeton.artisoft.com> from "Terry Lambert" at Mar 24, 97 01:14:00 pm
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Terry Lambert wrote: > > > > > Two elements in hypermail, threading and date sorting, are good > > > > in principle but the overall implementation is clumsy and doesn't > > > > scale well. The current interface to the FreeBSD mailing list > > > > archives scales nicely, but is currently missing these features. > > > > > > We still don't message-ID stamp the messages on receipt by majordomo, > > > do we? > > > > Terry, > > what a are you proposing? every message has its own message-ID > > providing by the orignating machine. please, clarify what > > you have in mind. > > Well, we have exchanged private email on this, but I'll respond publically > to this posting... please bear with me, i have forgotten..... > > No everyone uses sendmail. If you look at Robert Withrow's messages > (as an example, not to pick on Robert) the "Message-ID:" is not > present -- Robert is using EXMH, and he's not getting an ID stamp. hmm....my EXMH messages have a message-id but, that may not hold for all versions of EXMH Message-Id: <199703242000.PAA06207@kryten.frb.gov> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: jmb@freebsd.org Subject: sent from exmh Mime-Version: 1.0 > I've seen the same thing on older SMTP servers (for instance, there > are a number of machines behind firewalls that really don't need to > do the "security update" process, and so are running with whatever > version came from the vendor originally. > > What I'm suggesting is that there needs to be a "X-List-ID:" or > something similar for mailing lists, _added by the list server_. okay, i understand what you have written so far. > We can be guaranteed that a reply to a message won't come to the > list server before the message; even if we can't (CC: line has > list in it instead of as the primary recipient), if you generate > the message ID based on UTC timestamp and originator, you can still > time-order thread messages witha given subject (and use "Re: " > prefixing of the subject to get a full thread identity). so what you want is for freefall (our mail hub) to time-stamp the messages? and indicate the originator? something like X-sequencer: 199703242000Z jmb@freefall.freebsd.org > > The major problem is that mailers which don't use the message ID > of the message being replied to in the generation of an "In-Response-To:" > or similar header. what software are you using to thread your messages, just curious ;) jmb
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