From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sun May 10 19:07:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA17571 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Sun, 10 May 1998 19:07:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from out5.ibm.net (out5.ibm.net [165.87.194.245]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA17558 for ; Sun, 10 May 1998 19:06:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwilde1@ibm.net) Received: from ibm.net (slip166-72-121-42.ca.us.ibm.net [166.72.121.42]) by out5.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id CAA139764; Mon, 11 May 1998 02:06:44 GMT Message-ID: <3556575F.23176E4B@ibm.net> Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 18:41:51 -0700 From: Don Wilde Reply-To: dwilde1@ibm.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jason C. Wells" CC: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: chain letter proposal References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jason, I'm sorry you feel that way. I thought the reservations they [DG and JKH] had were about its effectiveness, not its usage as a tool. Go back and read their posts without filtering it through your own anti-SPAM feelings, please. What they did say is that they don't get a very good response from the registration and that they doubted that this request would get everybody. Okay, fine. This doesn't change the fact that WE NEED NUMBERS. Do you have a better idea _that_will_work_??? I hope this circulates until the end of time because that will mean that people still care about FreeBSD [ or that The End Is Near, but that's another pail of worms ;) ]. It is irrelevant if FreeBSD goes away, but will always be relevant as long as FreeBSD exists. I can modify the wording to have people check the website for a newer version if things change, but the questions asked will always be relevant. This data will always be necessary, and I don't see any other alternative than going the 'commercial distribution' route, and I see that as far worse poison than a one-page chain letter. Now, if -core DOES think this is a mistake, let them speak. I have shown that reason will prevail with me, even when it is personally embarassing. If no official objections arise, then I will go make some Perl code and post it near the end of the week when I am happy with it. I am very much aligned with Jordan's aggrieved posting about time being wasted here. I will put forth my effort, and when the page goes up with working code, we can then have a vote. If there are enough legitimate objections, I will can it. If not, we will try it. I personally think the benefits outweight the costs. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message