From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 21 00:38:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 036E616A4B3 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 00:38:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [207.200.4.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DDDA43FCB for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 00:38:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id A942914655; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 02:38:01 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 02:38:01 -0500 (CDT) From: Mark Linimon X-X-Sender: linimon@pancho To: Daniel Eischen In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: h@schmalzbauer.de cc: current@freebsd.org cc: "M. Warner Losh" cc: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: Fixing -pthreads (Re: ports and -current) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 07:38:03 -0000 IMHO if the ports tree is unfrozen for the -pthreads fixes, the 4.9 release schedule will drift days if not weeks. While it's not as apparent as the kernel build issues, there are significant QA issues that go into the ports system. That's why the freeze is in place, to allow the QA process to run its course. Executive summary: POLA was violated for all the ports maintainers who do not keep up with kernel intricacies. Dismissing their distress at this doesn't really help the project move along. mcl