Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 17:37:07 -0400 From: "Lapinski, Michael (Research)" <lapinski@crd.ge.com> To: "'Denny Reiter'" <denny@reiters.org> Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Server out of space -- Need suggestions Message-ID: <E4AAC34FE3CF564D8AE89EB8AC333FD705CFEF2B@XMB03CRDGE>
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If your users lack clue enough to configure a mail client that is what support helpdesks are for or a well structured support website. Your talking in terms of a very large isp. I am talking in terms of what the original poster (who seems to be running a small to medium mail server) can/should do. Having 2 disparate mail servers is not uncommon, I was also thinking of a colo-swap with another provider, its way cheaper then having to pay loop+bandwisdth commit on a link that you only want for backup mail servers. It all realy boils down to what level of service and redundancy you are looking to get to. Again I was thinking on the cheap and less complicated because I interpreted that is what the original poster was looking to do =) -mtl -------------------------------------------------- Michael Lapinski Computer Scientist GE Research "I think there is a world market for maybe five computers." - IBM Chairman Thomas Watson, 1943 ->-----Original Message----- ->From: 'Denny Reiter' [mailto:denny@reiters.org] ->Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 5:29 PM ->To: Lapinski, Michael (Research) ->Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG ->Subject: Re: Server out of space -- Need suggestions -> -> ->On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 04:30:22PM -0400, Lapinski, Michael ->(Research) wrote: ->> Your not goign to keep them in sync, this is so you users ->> can recieve *all* of thier mail, regardless if your primary ->> mail server is up. It is quite easy to config netscape and ->> other mail clients to poll multiple pop servers for new mail. -> ->Don't take this personally, but I find that solution silly in ->reality. While it's quite possible technically and would definitely ->solve problems, getting a user to successfully configure one mail ->account and keep from screwing that up is hard enough. Tell them ->to configure multiples and their head will start spinning. -> ->> I was addressing topic that others had brought up with ->> using a netapp and sharing it between 2 boxes and having ->> one box grab the ip of the mail server if it went down. ->> Its great and all but like I said before, if your mail server ->> is built well then the network turns into the failure point. ->> And with the network being the failure point why bother having ->> redundant mail servers in the same physical location? -> ->Got a couple of hundred users? You can probably get away with ->taking down your mail server to add more RAM or upgrading your ->system. Got 10,000? You still might be able to get away with it ->in the wee hours of the morning if you are quick and lucky. Got ->60,000? No way. You might be able to build one box and make it ->ultra-reliable and ultra-fast, but if things go sideways on you, ->you're screwed. Having multiple boxes taking care of things ->automagically not only will please your customers, but immensely ->improve your mental health. -> ->And the network being the failure point? That's why you have ->multiple circuits from different providers. -> ->-- ->Denny Reiter denny@reiters.org ->So I don't hurt your feelings: happydenny@reiters.org -> www.scapegoats.org ->Actually, Microsoft is sort of a mixture between the Borg and ->the Ferengi. -> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message
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