From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Feb 21 8:58:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AE6937BD4B for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 08:58:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com (dcs@p38-dn01kiryunisiki.gunma.ocn.ne.jp [211.0.245.39]) by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) with ESMTP id BAA09281; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 01:58:37 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <38B16CEA.9284CB98@newsguy.com> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 01:50:50 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marco van de Voort Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: yamaha japan relationships anyone? References: <20000221105916.60F132E804@hermes.tue.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Marco van de Voort wrote: > > > They lost on a lower instance, but have just won on a higher instance > > under the merit of "fair use", since they had no legal alternative to > > obtain the specifications to the console (other than engaging in a > > contract deemed unacceptable). Unfortunately, the link with the ruling > > did not have the complete ruling for some reason. I don't know how the > > trademark thing was ruled. > > Afaik, this story is illegal in Europe too. You may reverse engineer to create > a substitute, but you may not distribute, let alone sell it (as a gamecreator > will probably do) Read again. It's not illegal, it's legal. Reverse engineering is LEGAL in the US and most (all?) of Europe. That had NOTHING to do with the case. The case centered on the fact that _copies_ of the disassembled object code had been made, to enable the reverse engineering. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org "If you consider our help impolite, you should see the manager." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message