From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 13 01:19:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F1F516A41A for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 01:19:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi@k1.com.br) Received: from smtp.k1.com.br (customer-200195196249.onda.com.br [200.195.196.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73E8943D45 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 01:19:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lenzi@k1.com.br) Received: from infopar.com.br (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.k1.com.br (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k5D10Olx035703 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 22:19:02 -0300 (BRT) X-MessageWall-Score: 0 (infopar.com.br) Received: from [201.21.131.24] (authenticated as lenzi) by infopar.com.br (MessageWall 1.0.8) with SMTP; 13 Jun 2006 01:19:02 -0000 From: Sergio Lenzi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200606121647.29868.beech@alaskaparadise.com> References: <20060613000605.85741.qmail@web33315.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200606121647.29868.beech@alaskaparadise.com> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 22:18:51 -0300 Message-Id: <1150161531.97205.74.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: FreeBSD is #1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 01:19:06 -0000 > While trying to introduce FreeBSD into a Micro$oft only house, I've heard the > following many times: > > "Never heard of FreeBSD" and "Show me some documentation and stats". > > Regardless of the actual version, the stats are accurate for those providers. > They reflect overall uptime and connectivity. This isn't about version, it's > about FreeBSD gaining a firmer foothold in a Micro$oft / Linux dominant > world. Personally, I'll take all the help I can get. > > 'nuff said, > > Beech > Here we try to offer the FreeBSD to the "concorrents" of the house... as the concorrents now have less cost, more reliable servers, and a good group/collaborative server running on FreeBSD 6.X.. htp://www.open-xchange.org they still can use the corporate software (via terminal server, rdesktop)... now they use internet (epiphany) email (evolution, linked with the open-xchange server) office (via openoffice 2.0.2) about 1200 thin clients (64Mb memory, 400mhz geode cpu...) and about 6 FreeBSD servers... soon they will have to rethink next year budget... it will be impossible to change 400 or more computers to 64 bit architeture for run next Microsoft vista... at about 1000 dollars (or more) for a hardware + software upgrade.... Only an upgrade of the Microsoft exchange server how much will cost??? Well the "concorrent" of the same business have it running now, on the laptops... running FreeBSD, gnome 2.15 with hal -> http://www.freedesktop.org How much does this all cost??? about 50 dollars/user/year.. including training... An average user (the less he know windows, better) is able to use the full power of the system with about 3 hours of trying... 90% of the users have been using the system with only the help from the "neighbors" ... Only the "best ones" (those who earn more salary, because have many "curses" from microsoft) were still looking for the "C" drive, or the "outlook" to use email... a day or two after... I know that there are advertyzing... in the news telling that using Microsoft is cheaper and better.... is up to you to believe... Here we used to say that Microsoft builds "full informational computerized tables" a table where you can scan, print, produce document, some work, play music, video, some games... But a bunch (no mather what is the number of...) tables does not means an "informated" company... I came from SUN... where the computer is the network... when i need something I get from the network... Why do I need a "printer driver" what is a "C" drive??? what is a zip??? how can a teen ager in a high school in another part of the world can spoil my computer??? why do I need to pay for protection??? Here in my country is illegal... All I want do to is to do my job... Lenzi