From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 22 21:11:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3E0C106566C; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:11:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f227.google.com (mail-bw0-f227.google.com [209.85.218.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07FAE8FC1E; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:11:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz27 with SMTP id 27so105798bwz.43 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 14:11:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ivucsl5OrFSJ5cLSFxEw+xhZVvkcJOORy7tANuCruCk=; b=xzosbPO0eAJzwy/3nQgX2+wYLLzq8U1djp/+GbLrQnSXPsdl/U9J+72yHe2b6Vry44 GqtzzNB6WlJXVqjoK6IeV0zc3sllibZZs7NShZF+72RpEYxvXgYyYgSq0y03kVhaYagF 4vg47vceBSzwEfQQtZzZvP8jBjo1J0hR6pS+Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=gZvXPUYbq4XhqhrvLQEqlILt8ZrxHqPVquAr9SPQwZPmw/2v+n3ehUomA9z5ngNNYz 9wI0t7ReBLOT2KSLhzDPDwG51cF/9FiuzmYKAhRVUScu4jnYCSAl4w71mg7a2EE4DszO VxXSdRREZ1OO62DpQXzrn3pDANxRHH7EFDyR0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.237.193 with SMTP id k1mr129902hbp.173.1253653897622; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 14:11:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4AB91DAA.5010000@FreeBSD.org> References: <20090921112657.GW95398@hoeg.nl> <20090922135435.36a3d40e@lazybytes.org> <4AB90448.9020706@FreeBSD.org> <19e9a5dc0909221014o14e88c96ubf32142b85d781d@mail.gmail.com> <20090922173517.GB63149@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <19e9a5dc0909221053r4ada92bege718e37aa575e0de@mail.gmail.com> <4AB91DAA.5010000@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:11:37 -0300 Message-ID: <19e9a5dc0909221411n1486cb80x220384b37daee921@mail.gmail.com> From: Gonzalo Nemmi To: Doug Barton Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: arch@freebsd.org, Sergey Vinogradov , current@freebsd.org, Steve Kargl Subject: Re: BIND in the base (Was: Re: tmux(1) in base) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:11:39 -0000 On 9/22/09, Doug Barton wrote: > Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: > >> With all due respect, I already know that .. it's pretty clear in the >> different manuals, hanbooks and how-ro's ... and that's exactly why I >> never asked how can I remove sendmail and replace it with dma .. the >> question was more inclined in the way: why such a heavywheight (which >> is what a lot of users seem to be saying, and I agree with them) when >> we could do just as well with dma > > So do it already. :) A lot of people have talked about this, but no > one has put code where their mouth is. Create a POC and post it to > -arch, then we have something concrete to discuss. And please, don't > bother with the "But I don't want to do the work if it isn't going to > be accepted into the base" argument. There are way more than enough > people whinging about this topic that your work will have an > appreciative audience, which is all the reward we get around here. Dear Doug: Those words were just an explanation to Steve Kargl's misleading interpretation of my former e-mail. >> (let alone the fact that we could >> then cooperate with DragonFly, creating synergy, advancing toghether >> towards the same goal amongst a plenty of other advantages). > > While those are nice words I don't think they have any meaning in the > real world. We're dealing with a technical issue, we need to keep the > discussion on technical terms. Oh they do .. believe me ... specially to me, the paying customer =) Regards Gonzalo