From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Jan 30 15:33:46 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA05058 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 15:33:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp03.primenet.com (smtp03.primenet.com [206.165.6.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA05053 for ; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 15:33:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tlambert@usr04.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp03.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA09930; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 16:33:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr04.primenet.com(206.165.6.204) via SMTP by smtp03.primenet.com, id smtpd009827; Sat Jan 30 16:33:32 1999 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr04.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA24304; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 16:33:16 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199901302333.QAA24304@usr04.primenet.com> Subject: Re: USB drivers To: toasty@home.dragondata.com (Kevin Day) Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 23:33:15 +0000 (GMT) Cc: tlambert@primenet.com, patl@phoenix.volant.org, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199901302217.QAA13588@home.dragondata.com> from "Kevin Day" at Jan 30, 99 04:17:32 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > The cost for running two production lines, extra fabs, and just the overhead > of having more than one SKU isn't worth it for most manufacturers. Going to FAB on an ASIC is ~$30k; if you intend any volume at all, then you can afford an ASIC very easily. > It also would cost us more to get a motherboard without them stuffing the > USB port connector on it. The connector costs like $.15, but the costs for > making a different run, different model number, etc, far exceed that, unless > you're buying hundreds of thousands. Right; if that's all you were diking out... > So.. In some cases, if all you want is an ISA/PCI bridge, you're better off > buying an ISA/PCI bridge that also has IDE, Floppy, Serial, Parallel, USB, > and a bunch of other stuff, because everyone wants those features, so you > can sneak in and buy a chip with high volume because it's cheap. Right, but if you're looking at no PCI, no ISA, just USB, you could easily use one of the chips they use in mice cameras, or whatever, with a tiny amount of glue. It shouldn't even take an ASIC at all to make it go. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message