From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 1 21:37:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0A59106566B for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2010 21:37:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@rhavenn.net) Received: from smtp144.dfw.emailsrvr.com (smtp144.dfw.emailsrvr.com [67.192.241.144]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CDD98FC13 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2010 21:37:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay14.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay14.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 1AE2490844A for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2010 17:37:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by relay14.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: rhavenn-AT-rhavenn.net) with ESMTPSA id 83EFA908443 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2010 17:37:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by alucard.rhavenn.local (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 18E213F28; Thu, 1 Jul 2010 13:36:03 -0800 (AKDT) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 13:36:03 -0800 From: Henrik Hudson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100701213603.GB42755@alucard.int.rhavenn.net> References: <4C2A5E6E.4030005@midsummerdream.org> <4C2B4FB7.7010204@comcast.net> <4C2BB812.2050100@midsummerdream.org> <4C2CB212.6090107@midsummerdream.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4C2CB212.6090107@midsummerdream.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Re: Recommended supported SATA Cards? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2010 21:37:42 -0000 On Thu, 01 Jul 2010, Rob wrote: > On 06/30/2010 04:45 PM, Diego Arias wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Rob wrote: > > > >> I've seen the SYBA SY-PEX40008, but would prefer to have a PCI-e 4x > >> connector for the bandwidth and avoid a port multiplier if possible. Since > >> this will be in a ZFS pool, I'd prefer not to have 1 bad port take out more > >> than 1 disk. :) I have seen the Sil3124 chipset mentioned before in my > >> searches and wasn't sure of its level of support either so it's nice to know > >> that chipset is well supported. Does the siis driver support offlining and > >> swapping hard disks without rebooting? > >> > >> > >> The Adaptec 1430SA seems to use a Marvell chipset according to some > >> searching of the freebsd archives: > >> http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/current/2005-10/0389.html > >> http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/stable/2005-11/0441.html > >> http://old.nabble.com/Adaptec-1405-on-FreeBSD-td26337538.html > >> > >> But Adaptec's own site/documentation doesn't want to confirm it for me. > >> The best I've come up with is: > >> > >> http://ask.adaptec.com/scripts/adaptec_tic.cfg/php.exe/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=12177&p_created=1098385883&p_sid=1tiW_K3k&p_accessibility=0&p_redirect=&p_lva=438&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PWRmbHQ6MSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MjE5LDIxOSZwX3Byb2RzPTQ1JnBfY2F0cz0mcF9wdj0xLjQ1JnBfY3Y9JnBfc2VhcmNoX3R5cGU9YW5zd2Vycy5zZWFyY2hfbmwmcF9wYWdlPTE*&p_li=&p_topview=1 > >> > >> I've found a commit that mentions support for the 1430SA: > >> > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/svn-src-stable-8/2009-November/000565.html > >> > >> But I'm not sure what the state of the support is or how stable it is with > >> that driver (looks to be ata?) > >> > >> If the 1430SA uses the Marvell chipset (as it appears to), then I guess the > >> question comes down to the level of support for the Marvell 88SX6541 and > >> 88SX7042 chipsets. > >> > >> Anyone know the current state of functionality for the above Marvell > >> chipsets? > >> > >> Rob > >> > >> > >> On 06/30/2010 09:07 AM, Steve Polyack wrote: > >> > >>> On 06/29/10 16:58, Rob wrote: > >>> > >>>> I've been trying to find a PCI-e SATA II (300MB/s) controller card for > >>>> a FreeBSD 8.0 system, but am having problems determining if FreeBSD > >>>> 8.0 will support them. Ideally I'd like to find one that is not a HW > >>>> Raid controller, as I don't need that functionality since I place to > >>>> use ZFS and the HW Raid on the card just gets in the way. I know that > >>>> a HighPoint RocketRAID 23x0 (2310, 2320) will work with the htprr > >>>> driver, but those are HW RAID cards. > >>>> > >>>> I've found 'Adaptec 2241000-R 1430SA' and 'Rosewill RC-218' cards, and > >>>> those are the ones I'm having a hard time telling if FreeBSD supports. > >>>> Searching of the e-mail archives has given me mixed results and > >>>> nothing definitive to say that they work. > >>>> > >>>> I'm not sure what chipset the Adaptec 2241000-R 1430SA uses, but the > >>>> Rosewill uses the Marvell 88SX7042 chipset. I'd prefer to use Adaptec > >>>> if possible as in the past they produced good SCSI boards and used to > >>>> be well supported (in Linux anyway), but I'll use the Rosewill if it's > >>>> well supported in FreeBSD. It's also possible Adaptec has taken a hit > >>>> in support/quality since I last used one of their boards. :) > >>>> > >>>> I think the Marvell SATA chipset work is still a work-in-progress. It > >>> may still be supported by the ata(4) driver, but that driver typically > >>> does not support any SATA-specific features, such as NCQ. > >>> > >>> Does anyone know if the above boards are supported in FreeBSD? Anyone > >>>> have any recommendations for PCI-e 4x SATA controllers with a minimum > >>>> of 4 internal connectors? > >>>> > >>> > >>> We use a handful of the SYBA SY-PEX40008 cards > >>> (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816124027) to > >>> manage a handful of drives with ZFS. The cards have some RAID features, > >>> but you can simply plug disks in and use them without involving the RAID > >>> layer. If your motherboard supports it, you can even disable the Option > >>> ROM from showing up on boot. > >>> > >>> Overall, the performance has been pretty good. The siis(4) driver has > >>> full support for the Sil3124 chipset that these use and supports all of > >>> the bells& whistles like NCQ and FIS-based switching for port > >>> multipliers. They have also been very stable. The only gripe for me is > >>> that it's only 1x PCI-E, instead of 4x, so you won't get full > >>> performance out of it once you have 4 fast drives attached. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> Rob > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >>>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> > > > > Actually 3ware seems to have very good FreeBSD support is that beyond your > > budget? > > > > 3ware as in LSI? I did a google search for 3ware and found a PCI card, > but the link to their PCI-E stuff sent me to a different LSI website. > Their website is a about as useful when it comes to technical > documentation as Adaptec's, and all their cards are RAID level cards. > The LSI cards I see are about as expensive as the RocketRAID cards and > look to be similar in functionality. How well supported are the LSI > 'Host Bug Adpaters' (LSI website's name)? Are they the same as the > 3ware cards you mentioned before (by looking, I'm guessing no). Personally, if this is for a server I would still use a higher level RAID card even it will be used only in JBOD. Personally, I love 3ware. Their support is awesome, their drivers are decent and their web based remote management interface is really nice. I believe some cards eeek them out in raw perfomance, but as a whole package they're pretty nice and they seem to get OSS, drivers and support. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816116042 Henrik -- Henrik Hudson lists@rhavenn.net ----------------------------------------- "God, root, what is difference?" Pitr; UF