From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Apr 13 11:35:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA18003 for hackers-outgoing; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 11:35:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from etinc.com (et-gw-fr1.etinc.com [204.141.244.98]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA17995; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 11:35:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dbws.etinc.com (db@dbws.etinc.com [204.141.95.130]) by etinc.com (8.8.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA23070; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 14:41:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970413143341.00693478@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 14:33:45 -0400 To: "John S. Dyson" From: dennis Subject: Re: Commercial vendors registry Cc: dyson@freebsd.org, terry@lambert.org, scrappy@hub.org, pgiffuni@fps.biblos.unal.edu.co, hackers@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 12:14 PM 4/13/97 -0500, John S. Dyson wrote: >> > >> >So, my suggestion is that if a change from the current course is wanted, and >> >no-one is willing to donate the time for free, those that want the change >> >can do it, or fund (or otherwise enable) the change. >> >> Its really not feasible, unfortunately. The only way to do it is become a >> BSDI, >> which is a serious step. Or, take a snapshot and maintain it as...say, a >> router >> O/S, like OpenBSD has done. >> >Well, an OpenBSD developer has likely had support to do exactly what they are >doing in that area or has invested time for a potential product. Many FreeBSD >developers are being funded and/or supported for various applications also >(including one like that.) Those who want changes, and are supporting them, are >likely getting them quickly. One can increase the probability of change by >contributing to FreeBSD or by funding it. > >Simply waiting for it to happen is not being proactive. Changes and >improvements will appear over time, but the priorities can be modified >by supporting them. > >There are at least a couple of motivations for a particular developer to fix >things. First, it is an issue of pride, second it is an issue of funding. >Really gross problems usually get fixed relatively quickly, but there are >times where there are conflicting resource dependencies, and then it becomes >a resource allocation issue. We can either risk one part of the project >for another, or we can bring more resources to bear on the various >enhancements and problems. The problem with funding fundamentals like networking is that some banana with a different philosophy is likely to either undo your changes or make other changes that compromise it. You'd have to maintain it yourself to make it worthwhile. Dennis