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Date:      Mon, 09 Apr 2007 10:29:29 -0500
From:      Eric Anderson <anderson@freebsd.org>
To:        Pawel Jakub Dawidek <pjd@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Gergely CZUCZY <phoemix@harmless.hu>, freebsd-geom@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: volume management
Message-ID:  <461A5BD9.1050504@freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <20070409152401.GG76673@garage.freebsd.pl>
References:  <20070408140215.GA54201@harmless.hu> <86k5wmu420.fsf@dwp.des.no> <20070408181916.GA59715@harmless.hu> <86bqhyu225.fsf@dwp.des.no> <461A4D93.3010200@freebsd.org> <20070409143818.GA86722@harmless.hu> <20070409152401.GG76673@garage.freebsd.pl>

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On 04/09/07 10:24, Pawel Jakub Dawidek wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 04:38:18PM +0200, Gergely CZUCZY wrote:
>> On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 09:28:35AM -0500, Eric Anderson wrote:
>>> On 04/08/07 13:57, Dag-Erling Sm??rgrav wrote:
>>>> Gergely CZUCZY <phoemix@harmless.hu> writes:
>>>>> yeap, i know about ZFS, as i assume, it will need around 1.5-2 years
>>>> >from now, when 7.0-RELEASE will be ready.
>>>> No, it's expected this fall.
>>>>> and i'm looking for a solution for a production environment within
>>>>> a year.
>>>> There is no other solution.
>>> How about gconcat?  You could create a mirror, then gconcat another mirror, etc, extending the GEOM. 
>>>  Then run growfs on that extended volume.  Wouldn't that work?
>> why gmirror? gconcat somehow could be used for this,
>> but
>> 1) i see no attach operation for gconcat to add
>> providers on the fly.
>> 2) this would require to always create subpartitions/bsdlabels
>> on the disk, and add a bit more on need.
> 
> Slow down:) Implementing off-line 'attach' operation is trivial and
> on-line 'attach' operation is also easy, but because you need to unmount
> file system anyway, off-line attach is ok.
> 
> Let's assume you have currently two disks: da0 and da1.
> 
> 	# gconcat label foo da0 da1
> 	# newfs /dev/concat/foo
> 	# mount /dev/concat/foo /foo
> 
> and you want to extend your storage by adding two disks: da2 and da3:
> 
> 	# umount /foo
> 	# gconcat stop foo
> 	# gconcat label foo da0 da1 da2 da3
> 	# growfs /dev/concat/foo
> 	# mount /dev/concat/foo /foo
> 
> That's all.
> 
> You can operate on mirrors too:
> 
> 	# gmirror label foo0 da0 da1
> 	# gconcat label foo mirror/foo0
> 	# newfs /dev/concat/foo
> 	# mount /dev/concat/foo /foo
> 
> And extending:
> 
> 	# gmirror label foo1 da2 da3
> 	# umount /foo
> 	# gconcat stop foo
> 	# gconcat label foo mirror/foo0 mirror/foo1
> 	# growfs /dev/concat/foo
> 	# mount /dev/concat/foo /foo
> 


Pawel, that is precisely what I had in mind.

One question - lets say support for online growfs was available - how 
would gconcat need to be modified to support that?


Eric






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