From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 13 08:18:06 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7F1BC3C2 for ; Tue, 13 May 2014 08:18:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from blue.qeng-ho.org (blue.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 187B42A66 for ; Tue, 13 May 2014 08:18:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.7/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s4D8Htu6055874; Tue, 13 May 2014 09:17:56 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <5371D533.9090301@qeng-ho.org> Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 09:17:55 +0100 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rolf Nielsen , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: games References: <5371299D.9060905@a1poweruser.com> <53714A17.8090207@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <53714A17.8090207@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 08:18:06 -0000 On 12/05/2014 23:24, Rolf Nielsen wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 2014-05-12 22:05, Fbsd8 wrote: >> I remember back in 6.x a lot of talk about killing every thing >> about games. Todays version of the handbook has no mention of >> games, but the bsdinstall installer has option to install games and >> there is a ports collection category called games. bsdconfig has no >> games installer. >> >> So what is the general status of games? Is the handbook correct and >> bsdinstall and the ports collection just never got cleaned up or >> does the handbook need a chapter on games? > > I'm not sure about the games that come (or used to come) as (an > optional) part of the system, because I have WITHOUT_GAMES=yes in my > /etc/src.conf. However, the fact that that setting causes no errors or > warnings and that it's still documented in the src.conf(5) man page, > suggests that they're still there, at least when building from source. I have two 10.0-R boxes, one with and one without WITHOUT_GAMES in /etc/src.conf. The one that excludes them has an empty /usr/games. The one that doesn't has fileserver:1# ls /usr/games/ bcd factor grdc number ppt random strfile caesar fortune morse pom primes rot13 unstr Of those factor and primes save firing up something a lot heavier once in a blue moon, the rest I never touch. /usr/games isn't exactly a major waste of space: fileserver:1# du -sh /usr/games/ 288K /usr/games/ but I doubt whether many would miss it if it went away. /usr/ports/games is different, and I doubt whether it will vanish, but you're better off asking the porting team about their intentions.