From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Dec 21 13:26:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mailout02.sul.t-online.com (mailout02.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DB6337B419 for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 13:26:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from fwd03.sul.t-online.de by mailout02.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 16HXBN-0005fA-07; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 22:26:21 +0100 Received: from pc5.abc (520067998749-0001@[217.233.121.18]) by fmrl03.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 16HXB9-0Wo2lcC; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 22:26:07 +0100 Received: (from nicolas@localhost) by pc5.abc (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBLLQ6p17953 for chat@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 22:26:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from list@rachinsky.de) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 22:26:06 +0100 From: Nicolas Rachinsky To: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: GPL nonsense: time to stop Message-ID: <20011221212606.GB17204@pc5.abc> Mail-Followup-To: chat@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200112182010.fBIKA9739621@prism.flugsvamp.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20011218180720.00d6e520@localhost> <20011219091631.Q377@prism.flugsvamp.com> <0en10ey5jo.10e@localhost.localdomain> <20011219215548.D76354@prism.flugsvamp.com> <20011220171739.J26326@prism.flugsvamp.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20011221131016.00d3dcc0@localhost> <20011221150930.A78601@prism.flugsvamp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011221150930.A78601@prism.flugsvamp.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i X-Powered-by: FreeBSD X-Homepage: http://www.rachinsky.de X-PGP-Keyid: C11ABC0E X-PGP-Fingerprint: 19DB 8392 8FE0 814A 7362 EEBD A53B 526A C11A BC0E X-PGP-Key: http://www.rachinsky.de/nicolas/nicolas_rachinsky.asc X-Sender: 520067998749-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Dec 21, 2001 at 03:09:30PM -0600, Jonathan Lemon wrote: > On Fri, Dec 21, 2001 at 01:15:02PM -0700, Brett Glass wrote: > > At 04:17 PM 12/20/2001, Jonathan Lemon wrote: > > > > >Sorry, but you're forgetting one simple fact: as the Author, I maintain > > >all Copyrights. So my original work by itself is (and cannot be) tainted > > >by the GPL unless I reassign the copyright. This *IS* well tested > > >international copyright law. (Berne Convention) > > > > Jonathan: > > > > This is, alas, not quite true. Let's take the example of Linux syslogd. > > It was based on Berkeley syslogd, written by Eric Allman, and the man > > page credits him and other contributors. But the code has been thoroughly > > commmingled with GPLed additions and modifications, and there is nothing > > in the code to indicate which parts are GPLed and which are not. It is > > thus effectively GPLed. > > No, Brett, that's not what I said. I said that the *ORIGINAL* work > by *itself* is not and cannot be tainted by the GPL. Yes, I agree with > you here that the Linux syslogd (a derivative of Allman's original > work) is tainted (by some definition of taint) by the GPL. But the > original pre-GPL work, which probably still is available in an archive > somewhere, is not GPL'd. Just a question, there is an version of the BSD license which is incompatible with the GPL, which means I can't distribute a work with has both licenses. In the following I call this (incompatible) BSD license BSDL. If I have an program licensed with the BSDL, I'm not the author/copyright owner of. I have a source file which is GPL'd. If I combine this two for example by linking them together, I create a derivated work of both the source files. The GPL requires me to license the whole work under the GPL, which I can't do, so every distribution of the whole work in binary (and perhaps in source) is illegal. Is this correct? Are all the linux distributers violating copyright law? Nicolas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message