From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 26 05:35:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0FE81065678 for ; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 05:35:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joao@matik.com.br) Received: from msrv.matik.com.br (msrv.matik.com.br [187.95.0.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EA318FC0A for ; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 05:35:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pop1.hm.net.br (pop1.hm.net.br [186.222.205.44]) (authenticated bits=0) by msrv.matik.com.br (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6Q5YtrN006138 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 26 Jul 2012 02:34:56 -0300 (BRT) (envelope-from joao@matik.com.br) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.5 at msrv.matik.com.br X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.2 msrv.matik.com.br q6Q5YtrN006138 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=matik.com.br; s=racoon; t=1343280897; bh=B32gjwvgsW2gqe6tvzReqLzt2jjVfRAAqHqmwcnS1As=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=A1XbPfo/mfq+ixNba7m1THuPrv9nKRZsYkxWZJyHUcokGrS3HU1/o0tqXXuMsHYbw NOU3t/5FRUCSlNY4qSbZRXqd9uNT9zNMTNn02ha9Nf0rKtXveTZeT4kDgpaG7v2x0d dO4KrKbqr0AlCZUx/6APcAZr+tObvShhN6xqOOl8= Authentication-Results: msrv.matik.com.br; sender-id=pass header.from=joao@matik.com.br; auth=pass (PLAIN); spf=pass smtp.mfrom=joao@matik.com.br Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 02:34:49 -0300 From: joaoBR To: Warren Block Message-ID: <20120726023449.0bb85746@pop1.hm.net.br> In-Reply-To: References: <20120725030004.52b1e8c2@pop1.hm.net.br> <20120725112622.24184266@pop1.hm.net.br> <5010064A.7030406@bally-wulff.de> <20120725165439.01c894e9@pop1.hm.net.br> <5010500D.4030109@ksu.ru> <20120725170817.5d6d1edb@pop1.hm.net.br> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.6; i386-portbld-freebsd9.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/9LDGl3h1NFvg/Ypi4iSG2Gs"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-298.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL=-0.317,BAYES_00=-1.9,DKIM_SIGNED=0.1,DKIM_VALID=-0.1,DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1,RCVD_IN_PBL=3.335,SPF_PASS=-0.001,TW_GL=0.077,USER_IN_DKIM_WHITELIST=-100,USER_IN_SPF_WHITELIST=-100,USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100 msrv.matik.com.br 1102; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 [1 mail.matik.com.br.] [127.0.0.11] [187.95.0.181] autolearn=no ASN AS28573 186.222.204.0/22 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2-hm_201202.c (2011-06-06) on msrv.matik.com.br Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2/3D rendering cards X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 05:35:05 -0000 --Sig_/9LDGl3h1NFvg/Ypi4iSG2Gs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Em Wed, 25 Jul 2012 15:31:34 -0600 (MDT) Warren Block escreveu: > On Wed, 25 Jul 2012, joaoBR wrote: >=20 > > Em Wed, 25 Jul 2012 23:59:09 +0400 > > "Marat N.Afanasyev" escreveu: > > > >> joaoBR wrote: > >>> Em Wed, 25 Jul 2012 13:13:05 -0600 (MDT) > >>> Warren Block escreveu: > >>> > >>>> On Wed, 25 Jul 2012, Luca Pizzamiglio wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> there are, more or less, three opportunities: > >>>>> > >>>>> Nvidia > >>>>> AMD/Ati > >>>>> Intel > >>>>> > >>>>> Nvidia has really good performance using nvidia legacy driver. > >>>>> You have pros and cons (I don't want to start a debate about > >>>>> it) of closed-source. Nvidia using nv has quite poor > >>>>> performance, on Linux as well. > >>>>> > >>>>> AMD/Ati platform has a lack of support on FreeBSD (TTM not fully > >>>>> implemented or something like that). That means no OpenGL hw > >>>>> acceleration. > >>>> > >>>> Isn't this showing OpenGL hardware acceleration? > >>>> > >>>> direct rendering: Yes > >>>> server glx vendor string: SGI > >>>> server glx version string: 1.2 > >>>> GLX version: 1.2 > >>>> OpenGL vendor string: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. > >>>> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R600 (RV730 9498) TCL > >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > >> > > > > which xorg version is it? 7.6 ? >=20 > xf86-video-ati-6.14.6_1 > xorg-7.5.2 > xorg-server-1.10.6,1 >=20 where comes this video driver version from, mine is=20 xf86-video-ati-6.14.3_1 for same xorg-server > > because look, with xorg-1.10 I get this: > > > > direct rendering: Yes > > server glx vendor string: SGI > > server glx version string: 1.4 > > client glx vendor string: Mesa Project and SGI > > client glx version string: 1.4 > > GLX version: 1.4 > > OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 8.0.3 > > OpenGL shading language version string: 1.20 > > > > but no direct rendering anymore, rasterizing ... > > > > and you confirm certainly what I answered to Olivier that it was > > working with ATI before xorg ver 7.7 >=20 > It depends on the card. Cards up through the 4000 series should be=20 > supported by the current driver. This particular one is an HD4650 > PCIe, but I've also used the HD4850 and had reports of success with > either 4250 or 4350 cards. Some people have reported 2D acceleration > on the HD5470. well all ati cards are PCIe and are supported, question is what capabilities they have with FreeBSD and new xorg-serevr I certainly have not payed enough attention but by the versions mismatch I see and must say: You still are hiding the rendering capabilities of YOUR card because I have only ATI cards and a lot, I hacked my eyes out to figure it out and NO ati card so far gives me dri with xorg-server 1.10 and it's legitimate drivers. So I would like to know about how you did it (if) and see your versions, including mesa, GL, libglut and glx rendering string. this thread was initiated by Warren's answer and in fact what is interesting here which version HE is running because his card is doing dri and I am pretty sure, soon he upgrade his xorg he comes to rasterizing mode --=20 Jo=E3o Martins (JoaoBR) Infomatik Development Team http://wipserver.matik.com.br +55 11 4249.2222 --Sig_/9LDGl3h1NFvg/Ypi4iSG2Gs Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAlAQ1v4ACgkQCmIEQLX9sjrw0QCeL1TVfU0gYiAMiKZS7Pr3FSWC /IAAoIjIfshjk8E3KN5H5W9SnwWBAkWK =mrAQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/9LDGl3h1NFvg/Ypi4iSG2Gs--