From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Nov 13 18:33:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA16479 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 18:33:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (SRI-56K-FR.mt.net [206.127.65.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA16473 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 18:33:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA23655; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 19:32:54 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA12159; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 19:32:51 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 19:32:51 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199711140232.TAA12159@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: "Matthew N. Dodd" Cc: Nate Williams , hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Pentium lockup fix in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: References: <199711132335.QAA11405@rocky.mt.sri.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > On Thu, 13 Nov 1997, Nate Williams wrote: > > I think we need to give Jordan a big noogey if he indeed said that. For > > many people with shell machines, running 'crashable' in unacceptable, > > If you're running shell machines where a user can execute arbitrary > non-approved code, your box is root compromised already. (or will be) Not! Just because a user can run a compiler doesn't mean you're root compromised. If you really think that it's impossible to secure your system you've never been a system administrator of a student system whose only purpose in life is to break root, where you learn to make a secure system. :) Nate