From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 11 11:51:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA22293 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:51:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from iquest3.iquest.net (iquest3.iquest.net [209.43.20.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA22160 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:50:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dyson@iquest.net) From: dyson@iquest.net Received: (qmail 15873 invoked from network); 11 Mar 1998 19:50:45 -0000 Received: from iquest7.iquest.net (206.53.230.110) by iquest3.iquest.net with SMTP; 11 Mar 1998 19:50:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 19669 invoked by uid 4420); 11 Mar 1998 19:50:46 -0000 Message-ID: <19980311195045.19668.qmail@iquest7.iquest.net> Subject: Re: Softupdates code not Prime Time yet. To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com (Amancio Hasty) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:50:45 -0500 (EST) Cc: julian@whistle.com, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199803110746.XAA04791@rah.star-gate.com> from "Amancio Hasty" at Mar 10, 98 11:46:01 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > I have to echo what Julian is saying additionally if you are not prepared > to give a kernel stack trace and possibly nice printfs of kernel data > structures then don't try soft updates. I hate bug reports like > "soft update crashed my system" 8) > Pretty much the same with the VM and NFS stuff that I have been working on. Please, whenever you have problems with the kernel, a traceback and other such information is very useful. Alot of traffic for the VM and NFS stuff happens in the background, where the groups don't see it... People who know the issues about working on the kernel, also generally know that a statement about a crash without any kind of information is useless, and often just gets ignored. IF one sends the output of a panic only, without the appropriate portion of the namelist, the info is useless. John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message