From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Jul 19 07:36:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA27759 for hardware-outgoing; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 07:36:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nexgen.hiwaay.net (tnt2-66.HiWAAY.net [208.147.148.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA27753 for ; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 07:36:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nexgen (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nexgen.hiwaay.net (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id TAA07175 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 19:22:28 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199707180022.TAA07175@nexgen.hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG From: dkelly@hiwaay.net Subject: Re: Non-Intels In-reply-to: Message from Howard Lew of "Thu, 17 Jul 1997 00:09:09 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 19:22:28 -0500 Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk hlew@www2.shoppersnet.com said: > NexGen Nx586 cpu folks felt even worse because their chips were > labeled as "386s". nexgen: [80] dmesg | head Copyright (c) 1992-1997 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 2.2-STABLE #0: Mon Jul 14 22:57:15 CDT 1997 dkelly@nexgen.hiwaay.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/NEXGEN CPU: NexGen 586 (386-class CPU) ^^^--> Microsoft wasn't the only one. (grumble grumble grumble) :-) Actually its fair to label the Nx586 as a 386 because it lacks features a 486 has. And has some the 386 doesn't. FWIW NexGen built the worlds fastest 386's, not pin compatible with anything, not even themselves. My CPU is in a ZIF socket but then the factory CPU fan breaks they were exchanging the whole MB rather than trust the user to change the fan, or to ship a CPU with fan attached. Apparently the CPU was factory selected to mate with the MB. Very few users have been able to overclock a NexGen MB. I'd like to see AMD succeed. Maybe I'll upgrade this thing in a couple of months to a K6 if the problems are solved. In the next couple of weeks I'll be needing several systems for work, were downtime costs much more than at home. Pentium 133's are looking attractive. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system.