From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 13 12:24:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D2AB44B for ; Tue, 13 May 2014 12:24:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (si-002-i156.relay.mailchannels.net [108.178.49.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EC9F20D7 for ; Tue, 13 May 2014 12:24:52 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: _forwarded-from|107.201.34.133 Received: from mail-24.name-services.com (unknown [10.218.133.212]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 6C465604E7; Tue, 13 May 2014 12:24:44 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: _forwarded-from|107.201.34.133 Received: from mail-24.name-services.com (mail-24.name-services.com [10.244.170.26]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.1.2); Tue, 13 May 2014 12:24:44 GMT X-MC-Relay: Forwarding X-MailChannels-SenderId: _forwarded-from%7C107.201.34.133 X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: demandmedia Received: from [10.0.10.1] (107-201-34-133.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net [107.201.34.133]) by mail-24.name-services.com with SMTP; Tue, 13 May 2014 05:24:39 -0700 Message-ID: <53720F06.1070404@a1poweruser.com> Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 08:24:38 -0400 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RW Subject: Re: games References: <5371299D.9060905@a1poweruser.com> <53714A17.8090207@gmail.com> <20140513125543.3cd46f57@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20140513125543.3cd46f57@gumby.homeunix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 12:24:53 -0000 RW wrote: > On Tue, 13 May 2014 00:24:23 +0200 > Rolf Nielsen wrote: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 2014-05-12 22:05, Fbsd8 wrote: >>> I remember back in 6.x a lot of talk about killing every thing >>> about games. Todays version of the handbook has no mention of >>> games, but the bsdinstall installer has option to install games and >>> there is a ports collection category called games. bsdconfig has no >>> games installer. >>> >>> So what is the general status of games? Is the handbook correct and >>> bsdinstall and the ports collection just never got cleaned up or >>> does the handbook need a chapter on games? >> I'm not sure about the games that come (or used to come) as (an >> optional) part of the system, because I have WITHOUT_GAMES=yes in my >> /etc/src.conf. However, the fact that that setting causes no errors or >> warnings and that it's still documented in the src.conf(5) man page, >> suggests that they're still there, at least when building from source. > > /usr/games/random is used by the ports system for RANDOMIZE_MASTER_SITES > > There aren't really any actual games as such left. It's fortune, which > provides admin tips on login, and a handful of small utilities - which > have presumably been left because they may be in use in shell scripts, > things like prime, factor, rot13, random etc. > > I find random(6) to be particularly useful, especially in the form: > "random -f -", which randomizes the order of lines in a pipeline. > "/usr/games/random is used by the ports system for RANDOMIZE_MASTER_SITES" This is not totally true. random may be used by the ports system, but not what is in /usr/games. random is in the kernel. I have been removing /usr/games directory since release 4.0 and never have had any problems.