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Thu, 23 Apr 2020 19:06:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5058973.kMyvyFPq5o@amos> <20200423085443.18f00e9649e8c71867505550@sohara.org> <20200423113134.GB93186@trajan.stk.cx> In-Reply-To: <20200423113134.GB93186@trajan.stk.cx> From: Aryeh Friedman Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2020 22:05:58 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Wayland on FreeBSD To: Arne Steinkamm Cc: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" , Ihor Antonov , FreeBSD Mailing List X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 497cwM3DlVz4dLC X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=BMmGKM9f; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of aryehfriedman@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::143 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=aryehfriedman@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.00 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; URI_COUNT_ODD(1.00)[9]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; 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FreeBSD never stopped recommending NFS as the preferred > network > > storage method. > > There is no "preferred network storage method". > NAS and SAN technologies both have their pros and cons and the decission > which one suits best has to consider many factors. > Looking around almost every major linux dist discourages NFS in favor of almost anything else for example here is SUSE's official manual on network storage (never even mentions NFS directly as a primary option, only how to manage the ACL's if your on a legacy NFS system): https://documentation.suse.com/sles/12-SP4/single-html/SLES-storage/#part-net-storage > > The lack of a distributed filesystem comes to my mind thinking at FreeBSD > in > a Initiator role. > The base system is not designed to be kitchen sink... if you want different options look at sysutil/fuse Arne Steinkamm | Home: Mail: arnesteinkammcom > -- Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org